{"conversationCode":"432-022","tapeNumber":432,"conversationNumber":22,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-432-022","startDateTime":"1973-05-02T18:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-02T18:41:00.000Z","startDate":"2-May-1973","startTime":"2:38 PM","endDate":"2-May-1973","endTime":"2:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:38 pm and 2:41 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 432-022 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 432-22\n\nDate: May 2, 1973\nTime: 2:38 pm - 2:41 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman\n                      -Timing\n                      -White House\n                              -Bull’s office\n              -Departure for evening\n                      -Off the record\n\nBull left at 2:41 pm.","filename":["432-022.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"432-021","nextCode":"432-023","transcript":[{"start":2.09,"end":6.96,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":7.08,"end":19.92,"text":"General, you said the White House requested five minutes of your time."},{"start":19.94,"end":20.04,"text":"Sure."},{"start":20.06,"end":20.48,"text":"Right now."},{"start":22.4,"end":22.6,"text":"Right now."},{"start":22.62,"end":22.92,"text":"Over here, sir."},{"start":22.94,"end":23.7,"text":"Oh, you mean if you know there's more?"},{"start":23.72,"end":24.38,"text":"Yeah, I'll be over there."},{"start":24.4,"end":24.5,"text":"Fine."},{"start":25.16,"end":34.59,"text":"I want to bring your attention to 5 minutes to 5."},{"start":34.61,"end":37.99,"text":"It is going to be kind of heavy traffic."},{"start":38.23,"end":41.45,"text":"5 minutes to 6, or 5 minutes to 6, you're still kind of heavy traffic at that time of day."},{"start":41.48,"end":47.58,"text":"So it might take a little bit longer than necessary, but if you want to bump the record down."},{"start":48.02,"end":51.59,"text":"Well, I sort of, well, we'll leave at 6 o'clock."},{"start":51.6,"end":52.47,"text":"We'll still keep it off the record, though."},{"start":52.49,"end":52.61,"text":"Right."},{"start":52.63,"end":53.05,"text":"Off the record, yeah."},{"start":53.07,"end":53.41,"text":"Just like this."},{"start":53.43,"end":54.07,"text":"I'll have you on the line."},{"start":55.18,"end":55.95,"text":"Yeah, sure."},{"start":56.21,"end":57.22,"text":"I'll be 10 minutes."},{"start":57.24,"end":58.27,"text":"10 minutes before."},{"start":58.29,"end":58.49,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinate the logistics for a meeting with John D. Ehrlichman and establish plans for the President's off-the-record departure that evening. They discuss the timing and traffic considerations for travel from the White House to Bull’s office, ultimately agreeing to finalize departure logistics ten minutes prior to leaving. This brief exchange reflects the ongoing management of the President's schedule amid the heightened political sensitivity of the period.","topics":["Presidential schedule","John D. Ehrlichman","Logistics","White House operations","Off-the-record travel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:46:18.427Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","john-d-ehrlichman","logistics","white-house-operations","off-the-record-travel"],"audioDurationSec":64,"audioFiles":[{"file":"432-022.mp3","bytes":2048000,"durationSec":63.92,"bitrate":256320,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.105Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/432-022.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/432-022","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/432/conversation-432-022","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}