{"conversationCode":"432-031","tapeNumber":432,"conversationNumber":31,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-432-031","startDateTime":"1973-05-09T16:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-09T16:34:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1973","startTime":"12:31 PM","endDate":"9-May-1973","endTime":"12:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On May 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:31 pm to 12:34 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 432-031 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 432-31\n\nDate: May 9, 1973\nTime: 12:31 pm - 12:34 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 45-168]","filename":["432-031.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"432-030","nextCode":"432-032","transcript":[{"start":5.21,"end":31.4,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":31.42,"end":31.84,"text":"Somebody can hear me?"},{"start":31.86,"end":32.08,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":32.1,"end":32.86,"text":"They're all papers, whatever they are."},{"start":32.88,"end":33.78,"text":"First, they're all papers that are available."},{"start":33.8,"end":34.75,"text":"They're all, but they don't have to do with me."},{"start":35.38,"end":42.37,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":56.31,"end":58.13,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":79.82,"end":94.94,"text":"Can you stop it?"},{"start":94.96,"end":95.14,"text":"Go right."},{"start":95.16,"end":95.7,"text":"That's right, that's right."},{"start":109.31,"end":138.73,"text":"Okay."},{"start":138.75,"end":138.85,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief, cryptically recorded meeting concerning the handling of sensitive documents. The conversation focuses on ensuring that certain papers are organized and verified as unrelated to the President's personal involvement. The interaction concludes with instructions to deactivate the recording equipment, highlighting the administration's cautious approach to document management during the height of the Watergate investigations.","topics":["White House documentation","Watergate scandal","Press Secretary","Document handling","Presidential records"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:47:07.992Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-documentation","watergate-scandal","press-secretary","document-handling","presidential-records"],"audioDurationSec":143,"audioFiles":[{"file":"432-031.mp3","bytes":4581376,"durationSec":143.05,"bitrate":256205,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.105Z","transcriptGapSeconds":71,"transcriptGapShare":0.49,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/432-031.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/432-031","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/432/conversation-432-031","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}