{"conversationCode":"432-040","tapeNumber":432,"conversationNumber":40,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-432-040","startDateTime":"1973-05-09T20:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-09T20:15:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1973","startTime":"4:14 PM","endDate":"9-May-1973","endTime":"4:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:14 pm to 4:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 432-040 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 432-40\n\nDate: May 9, 1973\nTime: 4:14 pm - 4:15 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 45-174]","filename":["432-040.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"432-039","nextCode":"432-041","transcript":[{"start":0.4,"end":8.03,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":8.05,"end":8.47,"text":"How about the spider?"},{"start":8.49,"end":8.94,"text":"We've got to carry on."},{"start":8.96,"end":9.2,"text":"That's fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met briefly with his personal aide, Stephen B. Bull, to discuss the status of an item referred to as \"the spider.\" The conversation, though extremely cryptic and truncated, reflects the President's emphasis on maintaining operational continuity within the White House staff. No specific actions or further details were clarified in this exchange.","topics":["White House administration","Stephen B. Bull","Presidential staff","Operational continuity"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:47:57.143Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","stephen-b-bull","presidential-staff","operational-continuity"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"432-040.mp3","bytes":555008,"durationSec":17.2,"bitrate":258143,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.105Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/432-040.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/432-040","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/432/conversation-432-040","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}