{"conversationCode":"433-037","tapeNumber":433,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-433-037","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T21:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T21:54:00.000Z","startDate":"1-May-1973","startTime":"5:53 PM","endDate":"1-May-1973","endTime":"5:54 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:53 pm to 5:54 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 433-037 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 433-37\n\nDate: May 1, 1973\nTime: 5:53 pm - 5:54 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 45-101]","filename":["433-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"433-036","nextCode":"433-038","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":0.65,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.25,"end":13.28,"text":"Give Bob all of a call and tell him how I beat the cabinet out about that FBI guy, you know, being outside the door."},{"start":13.48,"end":17.95,"text":"And that I rejected the idea that he kind of was a bad memorandum."},{"start":17.97,"end":20.29,"text":"And Roger's just, you know, there's no memorandum."},{"start":20.31,"end":20.57,"text":"Just let him."},{"start":24.85,"end":31.32,"text":"Related to John, he and John and their families are invited to use Camp David for the weekend if they want."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Stephen B. Bull to contact Bob [Haldeman] regarding his recent confrontation with the Cabinet concerning the presence of an FBI agent outside the office. Nixon explicitly rejects the validity of a memorandum on the subject and instructs that no such document be produced. Additionally, Nixon extends an invitation for John and his family to utilize Camp David for the upcoming weekend.","topics":["FBI","Cabinet relations","Camp David","White House staff","Haldeman, H.R."],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:51:46.818Z"},"topicSlugs":["fbi","cabinet-relations","camp-david","white-house-staff","haldeman-h-r"],"audioDurationSec":38,"audioFiles":[{"file":"433-037.mp3","bytes":1230848,"durationSec":38.36,"bitrate":256694,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.424Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/433-037.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/433-037","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/433/conversation-433-037","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}