{"conversationCode":"435-015","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-015","startDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:24:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1973","startTime":"3:10 PM","endDate":"10-May-1973","endTime":"3:24 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:10 pm and 3:24 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-15\n\nDate: May 10, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:10 pm and 3:24 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                               -8-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Manolo Sanchez [?]\n              -Sequoia\n\n       Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s schedule\n               -Camp David\n               -New York\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:24 pm.","filename":["435-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"435-014","nextCode":"435-016","transcript":[{"start":0.39,"end":6.79,"text":"We're not sure yet."},{"start":8.35,"end":13.78,"text":"He's got a time of about 5 o'clock, 4.30."},{"start":13.8,"end":14.02,"text":"Okay."},{"start":14.04,"end":20.15,"text":"I think I should call Julia."},{"start":20.21,"end":22.89,"text":"Yeah, she's out in New York."},{"start":23.41,"end":26.79,"text":"Yeah, she's not getting back from Saturday."},{"start":26.81,"end":29.07,"text":"She might feel us in the end."},{"start":29.09,"end":29.62,"text":"I also don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate scheduling logistics for the President and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower. The discussion centered on upcoming travel arrangements for Julie and potential changes to the President's own calendar. No major policy decisions were made, as the conversation focused exclusively on managing personal family commitments and logistical planning.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","Logistics","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:01:06.359Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","julie-nixon-eisenhower","logistics","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":34,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-015.mp3","bytes":1105920,"durationSec":34.47,"bitrate":256693,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.424Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.052Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}