{"conversationCode":"435-017","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-017","startDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:30:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1973","startTime":"3:26 PM","endDate":"10-May-1973","endTime":"3:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On May 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:26 pm and 3:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-017 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-17\n\f                                              -9-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\nDate: May 10, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:26 pm and 3:30 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n\n       President’s previous conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n       President’s conversation with Haig, May 9\n              -Meeting\n                      -Leonard Garment\n                      -J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.\n                      -H[orace] Chapman (“Chappie”) Rose\n                              -Attendance\n                      -John J. Wilson\n                              -Buzhardt\n                                     -Haig, Garment\n                      -Misinformation\n                              -Rose\n                                     -Attendance","filename":["435-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"435-016","nextCode":"435-018","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":6.58,"text":"I just talked to Bob on one thing."},{"start":6.6,"end":22.12,"text":"You know, the meeting you reported to me last night on, you said that the report that you had was that Garvey and Buzzard and Chappie Rose were in the meeting."},{"start":22.14,"end":23.56,"text":"Chappie was not in the meeting at all."},{"start":25.07,"end":26.65,"text":"He was not in it at all."},{"start":26.67,"end":28.25,"text":"So this, of course, raises a problem for me."},{"start":29.34,"end":35.35,"text":"You don't think so?"},{"start":36.29,"end":56.92,"text":"No, but what I mean is, how do they get the impression of chances?"},{"start":56.94,"end":57.48,"text":"But the point is, I thought"},{"start":58.16,"end":73,"text":"They, I think Jackie had told him he was going to leave."},{"start":73.03,"end":73.27,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":74.51,"end":75.89,"text":"What I'm expecting to find is that he was not empty at all."},{"start":75.91,"end":79.83,"text":"So that's a concern for me."},{"start":79.85,"end":81.88,"text":"Fine, please."},{"start":81.9,"end":82.32,"text":"Fine."},{"start":82.54,"end":82.74,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Haig discuss a potential inaccuracy regarding the reported attendance of Horace “Chappie” Rose at a previous meeting involving Leonard Garment and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. Nixon expresses concern that misinformation about meeting participants is circulating and causing confusion. The two men agree to clarify whether Rose was indeed absent, highlighting the President’s focus on controlling the narrative and accuracy of internal reporting during this period.","topics":["Watergate","White House internal communications","Horace Chapman Rose","Alexander Haig","H.R. Haldeman","Administration personnel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:01:17.716Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","white-house-internal-communications","horace-chapman-rose","alexander-haig","h-r-haldeman","administration-personnel"],"audioDurationSec":88,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-017.mp3","bytes":2805760,"durationSec":87.59,"bitrate":256272,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.105Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.052Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-017.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-017","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-017","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}