{"conversationCode":"435-019","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-019","startDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:32:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1973","startTime":"3:30 PM","endDate":"10-May-1973","endTime":"3:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.;","description":"On May 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:30 pm to 3:32 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-019 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-19\n\f                                              -10-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\nDate: May 10, 1973\nTime: 3:30 pm-3:32 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with William E. Timmons.\n\n[See Conversation 45-195]","filename":["435-019.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Timmons, William E."],"prevCode":"435-018","nextCode":"435-020","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":2.51,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.31,"end":18.33,"text":"What's this dope in the house?"},{"start":26.28,"end":27.02,"text":"Only 150 people are in this house."},{"start":27.04,"end":27.14,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.16,"end":27.84,"text":"How much did it cost today?"},{"start":32.77,"end":45.93,"text":"We're going to get away with it."},{"start":45.95,"end":48.32,"text":"We're going to fight as a portion of the nation."},{"start":48.34,"end":49.58,"text":"We're going to display every strength there is."},{"start":69.86,"end":75.01,"text":"You pick up dead, you're winning."},{"start":75.25,"end":75.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":75.42,"end":76.7,"text":"Well, let's win this one."},{"start":76.72,"end":81.85,"text":"This is what we need, boy."},{"start":81.87,"end":82.19,"text":"All right."},{"start":82.53,"end":82.64,"text":"Good."},{"start":82.66,"end":83.08,"text":"All right, all right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and William E. Timmons discuss the administration's political strategy regarding a vote in the House of Representatives. Expressing confidence, the two men affirm their intent to aggressively leverage political strength and resources to secure a victory. The conversation concludes with a resolute commitment from both parties to fight for the desired outcome.","topics":["House of Representatives","Political strategy","Vote counting","Nixon administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:01:28.298Z"},"topicSlugs":["house-of-representatives","political-strategy","vote-counting","nixon-administration"],"audioDurationSec":88,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-019.mp3","bytes":2816000,"durationSec":87.89,"bitrate":256310,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.052Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-019.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-019","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-019","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}