{"conversationCode":"435-020","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-020","startDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-10T19:35:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1973","startTime":"3:34 PM","endDate":"10-May-1973","endTime":"3:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On May 10, 1973, Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:34 pm to 3:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-20\n\nDate: May 10, 1973\nTime: 3:34 pm-3:35 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nAlexander M. Haig, Jr. talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 45-196]","filename":["435-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"435-019","nextCode":"435-021","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":2.02,"text":"Ja."},{"start":2.04,"end":3.91,"text":"Ja."},{"start":3.93,"end":4.05,"text":"Kraut."},{"start":31.18,"end":46.86,"text":"But Chappie was not in the meeting."},{"start":46.88,"end":47.9,"text":"Well, that's the only thing."},{"start":47.92,"end":48.34,"text":"We know Chappie runs."},{"start":48.36,"end":48.8,"text":"Yeah, I didn't."},{"start":48.82,"end":49.56,"text":"I didn't think about it."},{"start":49.58,"end":57.99,"text":"I just thought that Garland was in the meeting and Chappie was there."},{"start":58.01,"end":59.17,"text":"I'm sure of that."},{"start":59.2,"end":59.64,"text":"I'm sure of that."},{"start":59.66,"end":60.5,"text":"Chappie was in the meeting."},{"start":61.27,"end":72.09,"text":"Ok. Ok. Ok."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Haig held a brief, informal meeting to clarify the attendance of specific individuals, identified as “Chappie” and Garland, at a prior gathering. The discussion focused on rectifying the President’s uncertainty regarding who was present during that meeting. No major policy decisions were made, as the exchange served primarily to resolve a minor factual discrepancy regarding personnel.","topics":["White House personnel","Meeting attendance","Internal communications","Alexander Haig"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:01:33.920Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-personnel","meeting-attendance","internal-communications","alexander-haig"],"audioDurationSec":77,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-020.mp3","bytes":2476032,"durationSec":77.27,"bitrate":256362,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.424Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}