{"conversationCode":"435-027","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-027","startDateTime":"1973-05-14T19:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-14T19:37:00.000Z","startDate":"14-May-1973","startTime":"3:36 PM","endDate":"14-May-1973","endTime":"3:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:36 pm to 3:37 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-027 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-27\n\nDate: May 15, 1973\nTime: 3:36 pm-3:37 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-59]\n\n                                                               Conversation 435-44\n\nDate: May 15, 1973\nTime: 3:37 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n       Removal of something\n\nThe unknown man left at 3:37 pm.","filename":["435-027.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"435-026","nextCode":"435-028","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":13.65,"text":"I don't know if you can see it, but I think it was Mark."},{"start":14,"end":17.7,"text":"I think it was Mark."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull briefly conferred regarding the identity of an individual, likely named Mark, who had been observed in the vicinity. The brief exchange focused on verifying this person's presence before Nixon subsequently met with an unidentified man to discuss the removal of specific materials. The conversation serves primarily as a logistical check preceding a sensitive, short-duration meeting.","topics":["Personnel identification","White House logistics","Document management","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:02:12.623Z"},"topicSlugs":["personnel-identification","white-house-logistics","document-management","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-027.mp3","bytes":950272,"durationSec":29.61,"bitrate":256714,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.424Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-027.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-027","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-027","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}