{"conversationCode":"435-032","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-032","startDateTime":"1973-05-14T19:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-14T20:19:00.000Z","startDate":"14-May-1973","startTime":"3:51 PM","endDate":"14-May-1973","endTime":"4:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On May 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:51 pm and 4:19 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-32\n\nDate: May 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:51 pm and 4:19 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n\n       Watergate\n             -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]\n             -Unknown man’s possible testimony\n             Memoranda of conversation [memcons]\n                    -Compared to diary\n                    -Release\n             -John W. Dean, III","filename":["435-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"435-031","nextCode":"435-033","transcript":[{"start":8.97,"end":12.91,"text":"."},{"start":12.93,"end":12.95,"text":"."},{"start":12.97,"end":12.99,"text":"."},{"start":51.77,"end":63.47,"text":"But I mean, if they weren't in the White House, we wouldn't."},{"start":63.49,"end":63.73,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":63.75,"end":67.45,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":67.47,"end":69.04,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":69.06,"end":69.8,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":70.3,"end":70.66,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":70.76,"end":71,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":71.08,"end":71.38,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":71.4,"end":71.68,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":71.7,"end":71.96,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":71.98,"end":72.24,"text":"We wouldn't."},{"start":106.55,"end":133.64,"text":"Okay."},{"start":134.34,"end":134.44,"text":"Okay."},{"start":135.08,"end":138.67,"text":"The Pentagon should be good to test when you can't wait out."},{"start":138.79,"end":150.79,"text":"Goddammit, if when you're at a Pentagon, you may have a feeling about the later changes, or a change of program, and you're getting that reaction, it's like a damn diary."},{"start":151.81,"end":154.75,"text":"It should not be put up in another area."},{"start":154.77,"end":160,"text":"That's my good news."},{"start":160.02,"end":161.54,"text":"I'm not going to do it, but let it come."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Haig discuss the handling of sensitive White House memoranda and internal records in the context of the unfolding Watergate investigation. They specifically evaluate the potential risks associated with releasing these documents, comparing them to personal diaries, and assess the implications of testimony involving John Dean and the FBI. The discussion reflects the administration's strategic efforts to manage the disclosure of internal materials while anticipating the legal and political fallout of the scandal.","topics":["Watergate","John W. Dean III","Memoranda of conversation","FBI","White House records","Document disclosure"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:02:40.256Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","john-w-dean-iii","memoranda-of-conversation","fbi","white-house-records","document-disclosure"],"audioDurationSec":170,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-032.mp3","bytes":5439488,"durationSec":169.88,"bitrate":256156,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}