{"conversationCode":"435-037","tapeNumber":435,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-435-037","startDateTime":"1973-05-14T21:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-14T21:15:00.000Z","startDate":"14-May-1973","startTime":"5:08 PM","endDate":"14-May-1973","endTime":"5:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:08 pm and 5:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-037 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 435-37\n\nDate: May 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:08 pm and 5:15 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Noise\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:15 pm.","filename":["435-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"435-036","nextCode":"435-038","transcript":[{"start":1.15,"end":9.38,"text":"Is that going to be going on all day?"},{"start":9.88,"end":10.28,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":10.3,"end":18.36,"text":"I mean, originally we thought it was going to be on all day, but it's not going to be on all day."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly met in the Old Executive Office Building to address operational logistics surrounding an ongoing event. Their exchange focused on clarifying the duration and schedule of activity occurring within the workspace. The discussion concluded without major policy developments, serving primarily to manage the daily administrative environment.","topics":["White House operations","Scheduling","Logistics","Administrative management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:03:06.948Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operations","scheduling","logistics","administrative-management"],"audioDurationSec":24,"audioFiles":[{"file":"435-037.mp3","bytes":778240,"durationSec":24.23,"bitrate":256986,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/435-037.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-037","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/435/conversation-435-037","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}