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Hi, how are you?

Good, thanks.

Well, sit down, sit down.

Ah, I know we didn't talk, because my question was, you know, we've received a lot of feedback.

We've got a lot of people on here, and we've got all this stuff, and we're going to get your attention.

Because what you have is the thing, and it's a thing, and it's a thing, and it's a thing, and it's a thing.

That stuff's over a long time, but we have to realize that we have to do quite a lot of work.

I think the intensity of it will change, because basically, people will forget after they realize that once they get in there, they can't just get out of the van.

They can't just get out of the van.

All of these guys are going to fight.

Of course, that'll be a big show.

It's a big one.

But it's nice to be a part of it.

It's going to be a hell of a lot of entertainment.

And I think I'll have some fun.

I'll have a good time.

Thank you.

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I mean, we are, as you know, we're being done at this time.

We are about to do that.

But my point is, if you don't see any of these things, if you don't see any of these questions, there's no way for us to figure them out.

I agree with you.

With regard to the president's computers, we cannot in L.A. We don't believe us.

We don't believe us.

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from the comments and I mean I don't believe you've got to remember it because I don't see any of that.

But it's no good.

Uh, Mr. Chesley, the leaders are looking to, he's made it, made it faster than he's done and now they have to change it.

What's the word?

Well, I think that, or what do you think?

So, um, well, actually, they're part of the

patient's doctor.

I don't worry at all about the doctor.

I can't think what I've gotten involved in.

I, uh, would want to be sure that there is a reason why there is a case in place.

We should take a very positive line with regard to not only our FBI activities in check groups, but also the activities in the White House in check groups.

It's too bad that they use our committee as a team, because they're a bunch of person-sponsors and bastards.

My whole point is, it's part of my obligation.

My obligation is to do the national security documents.

You're not going to do that.

Why not?

Well, I recommend it to you.

I don't know how you're going to do it.

He had it.

He hit that car.

I couldn't get it off.

He stopped it.

What is the law?

Well, at the end of the day, I don't know.

At that time, the bar caps were clearly legal.

They weren't legal.

Why are you speaking about it?

Well, I'm going to get buried with the right guy.

That's the end of the argument.

What else am I going to do?

under the omnibus crime act

Only the FBI didn't know if it ultimately was the order you're here with.

It was actually like water to me.

Of course, again, when I say order, let me make it clear that the way I did it, Father Tyler, I didn't order it.

I didn't ever order an attorney to tell me the order to suffocate me.

I said, I want an investigation on a person who got on there, a cruelty that was in a job.

I pray to God that I must find out who you've been doing it.

How do you find that out?

I don't know.

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What they may have done is potentially possible.

I don't want to say, you know, whatever.

But suppose they did.

I think they may have really said, of course.

Rather than to be pretentious about it, they say, yes, we were the, what we call, what they call, I didn't see what they were calling, the plumber's operation.

Now, if we did, I would be responsible for that.

I suspect that the president, from what we'll find out, is that what the patient actually did was do an intelligent job.

In fact, if we found out any of those stuff, we would find that I don't have any evidence to prove it.

We do have a case report we want to point out, and the Army Signal Corps is communicating with us this year.

The only thing that was actually found here, that would be the other thing.

They want to know the reason why you would have cried, not because of the stuff that they were doing.

They want to know the reason you would have cried in the plane, what reason you would have cried in.

We can't.

We can't address the national issues.

We have to restart.

We have to get it off the offensive.

Well, that issue has been brought up.

I mean, Ellsberg, a national hero, has given a surprise to the people of Clinton.

Keep your conscience.

We've got to fix it.

You know, we realize we can't have a successful, small negotiation.

The power position gets out in a minute.

You realize that?

That's the kind of stuff we're getting at here.

Not because I always try to tell them.

Like, I was in a problem with the table, and wanted to ask for anybody else to come in and review.

I mean, I don't have a job about it now, and I'll keep telling him that he can't review.

He's got to stand up and say, you know, they were justified.

He worked and served about an hour and a half on security and a place up.

That's right.

Because after June 72, June 72, I know it's not the best, but we just had to sit down and eat.

For a very fundamental reason, too, after they got that water agent, we should have just punched it in my senior's life, because I was raised really young, of course.

I was a young kid.

Oh, I said there had to be authority involved.

Uh, beyond that, there doesn't have to be.

A certain type of captain doesn't have a full form, you know, even though there are details of the crime action.

You know, I mean, there's a lot of action to be done.

There's a lot of action to be done.

Yeah, we have a problem.

Okay.

Yeah.

We should stand on the side of the left, in the first place, to justify those types of flights.

It's collateral to the issue.

We have no problem with it at all.

It's collateral.

Outside of the issue of board gates, and it's not the central issue, we should say, though,

We should say, in the first place, they were justified.

Yes.

And critical reasons in the national security have been to do what was done.

And in the third place, it has nothing to do with the war game matter.

Well, it all, except, I believe, except, no, the land, the offices, no elements of any war game that weren't happening yet.

That's right.

Unless, unless, unless, unless, unless, unless, unless, unless, unless,

I don't want to put everything on the list, but of course, it has been printed so fully.

What can I do with it?

I don't know.

Save it.

It is a delegation.

I don't know what kind of delegation it is.

In some extent, it was that he was involved with the, uh, the great, the great, the great, uh, he was running the empire.

And this guy here, with the, uh, the head of the company, you know, appears that they went in for the warning, didn't they?

Thoughtfully, they may have broken into one of these things.

It's best we can tell a very private, very public, to try to make the warning case that this is not the warning case.

And make the warning case that it looks like a, you know, a national operation, RCIS.

Thank you.

It appears the indictment is going to be held up.

So our first problem is going to be that same thing.

We've taken a witness list of counts.

We've got to grow from my count to that count.

We've got to look.

As best we know, any witness that says we won't reach the first 20,000

and you can't fool them.

I anticipate they'll have a report and written a book in about forever, probably a week.

Now as far as we can tell now, let's get you in touch.

There's two days here and three days next week.

But we have some time between.

articles that we already have.

We have some time.

So we know pretty well what these books will say.

Part of the question is how do we handle it effectively?

Thank you for your question.

Um, you know, I can't agree with it.

Well, it's all right if I don't agree with it.

But I don't think anyone has faith that we'll start with Colson.

Colson will be the first man on Colson's home.

And I doubt that Colson will hold up the courage.

Because he's only one to have a higher rank on this issue.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Those three have to be one of them.

Now, what would Francis do?

What would he do?

Well, it's great.

It's great.

I can't believe we're recording.

It's a show.

Well, I think they're doing it now.

I'm going to put these guys on and fix them before they ever get up there.

Let me tell you, they'll do well.

But every time they read Quidditch, they

So, we really got three on guard.

The U.S. made somebody sit on the seat, the Argers, of course.

Frankly, they call television a tragic force, which they just don't want to accuse of associating with those hearings.

But you can't do that, right?

The second way would be to send on their counsel to the Argers.

That's not as bad.

But I'm not sure we can depend on the council.

I don't know if the council is fairly in.

The third one is to go up and to work with the committee, negotiate.

I'll give a number of specific types of questions.

I'm going to end with this one, which is what I'm going to do, which is to get the best negotiations we can, to make sense, and then to go up and get the board's word into it.

We won't leave until then.

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But I thought we'd get this, get our best legal research we can, all the best, for those who don't deal with the earth today.

If we could deal with the staff and get free arrangements, we'd be much better off because those earths would be free to be arranged unless we have an understanding in the bank, because then it would be hard to

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It was very clear.

Yeah.

Thank you.

So, have you heard anything?

Okay.

Let me know if you will, please.

D-O-D-O.

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Dean doesn't say these documents are necessarily relevant.

There they are.

Whatever they are, let me say it.

The point is, if the document says it's a prison in the United States, which is a period in which the power of the United States might not help, he has a gift.

He has only one document.

It is fixed.

I'm quite sure that that's the document he wrote himself.

I'm sure that will be the big document, isn't it?

The one he apparently wrote, he can't say the name of.

He may have to write a report.

He apparently wrote the amount.

He never did.

He never gave it to him.

And that is apparently the big document.

Why do you think the self-serving happened?

Well, he has referred to this so frequently.

He has referred to the fact that he did have a document.

a formality of some sort, but it was not a report.

And so, I don't expect very much of this movie.

I don't think, I don't expect very much of it at all.

When you tell yourself a self-serving declaration, well, self-serving declaration, look, it's got, it's basically a crowning and a crowning.

It can't be, it can't not be, it can't be, it can't be.

His lawyer, however, as you know, is a third party to them, in fact.

And I guess there's a relationship between them.

I don't get it.

They're their married daughters.

And so the probability is that his lawyer is 100% interested in the damage he can do.

Thank you.

Well, let me say, we've got some things coming up there, you know, the type of use of it, you know, all of the active time you get, well, of course, I'll make a new strategy and all of it, and they're going to make a few other things next week that are going to be quite a show.

You know what I mean?

And then we're going to have the, uh, we're going to have, uh,

um um

I think there are two things you should avoid.

I don't mean to fight you, but I think you should avoid anything, any step that raises the issue of the excessive use of presidential power at this time.

I don't want any other type of controversy.

I don't worry about it.

I don't.

where the Congress has not mandated their expense if you're .

So we don't raise the .

And I think that would be .

I agree.

We avoid that.

We're going to be very .

I know.

I quite frankly think it was kind of like this.

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If Silver remains the direct prosecutor, I anticipate that all, everybody is expected to be publicly indicted, to be indicted by the inspector.

don't you believe that those people left should fight like all the guests here to work okay i think they can i think that at that point you're gonna judge the reason

If they're looking over their shoulder, surely they have recognized responsibility.

very fluidly in the approach.

Now we just step with that agent.

Well, Gurney is scared what problems with Wilson would be, you know, what he said.

Why doesn't this go on?

I don't know.

Well, at least they did, I understand, they did retract it.

Oh, they did.

I don't think any of them came to the commission.

Or did they actually touch up?

I don't know.

Remember, I don't know.

I don't like it.

I don't know what you think.

Let me tell you.

I was a smart guy.

I did it 25 years ago.

At home, Jesus Christ decided to put those million dollar words in my hand, saying, I'm going to clear that problem.

I'm a responsible person.

Well, you can take the environment.

We're the biggest difference in every country.

You're not going to hit a common person.

You're going to get it in our place.

What's the holdup?

No.

I mean, the judge has decided he won't take .

I think he's a little worried about that.

I don't know why he's going that way.

I don't know why he's doing it.

Is he the only one who's going to have to go home?

Maybe he's going to leave him on his own.

I can't believe it.

I don't know what he's going to do.

I've heard it's really tough to sit on.

It's really tough to sit on.

I think if you wanted to stay with us now, you'd have to write up all the things to say about it.

That's kind of the purpose.

Well, I don't understand at all.

These are all just stories from the president's view.

I'm not saying they aren't the president's view.

Right.

They are things that I'm all over.

You know, they're all struggling in relation to work.

I think that would be good.

Most of the information should be out.

That's right.

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I don't, I don't think that makes any sense.

If you raise this money, unless they can show that you have a purpose, it's a breath of air.

Or if you interfere with the judicial process, that uses the money.

That's usually depending on the money.

The problem is if you're sent to raise money, give to the defense.

Those are admittedly saying you raised a billion dollars.

You're supposed to if you have.

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That's what I was thinking.

I mean, I don't know why.

But that approach, I don't know why.

I don't know why.

Thank you.

I'm raising the money up until the time.

There's another way to fund it until they're convicted.

I don't think so.

I don't know.

John thought it was a good job.

John is not the impression they did on him.

Yes.

Oh.

I don't know.

I frankly don't know.

I think he resented John.

I don't know.

He resented him probably.

I guess because basically he was the counsel, but really not.

In other words, he wasn't the one.

He hadn't had a few other things to do.

Actually, he really wasn't the counsel.

He wasn't.

He really wasn't.

It was a nice thing, but he really wasn't.

So why did he get 92 of the other reports?

I mean, I don't know.

Why do you think that's a matter?

Why do you feel it's a matter?

I'm not sure yet that Dean is going to strike a point.

I do not believe that .

I can't believe Dean has been to the health care center because it was surely convicted.

Because being on television and he knows enough of the jurors are not isolated.

He did not come in there and say, Josephus, let me in, Josephus.

He's telling you.

Give him some more testimony.

He just knows that they're going to charge him if they have to claim him.

He has to say he's involved in something.

And he has to say he's involved in something if he's going to try to blame John.

Whatever the other money is, John, or whatever.

Like anybody else.

Right.

That's right.

There's no immunity from him.

The question is, will the special prosecutor give it to him?

We can tell him that.

Then I think we've got a real problem.

Then we can tell him what we have a problem in terms of our arrangement.

That's right.

with the law out, and by inserting them, we're going to have to be very careful.

John, Bob, will be able to deal to some extent with the accusations made.

And Phil Spade will have a good time .

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I can't, you know, I've got to clear my spirits with that, and I can say that I voiced the opinion that it was right for fellows to stay there for a few days, because I believe that's what it was.

But I told you, I'll repeat what I said, and I think

The words get the truth.

But don't.

Don't give anybody anything.

It's a lie.

And I think that's what worries people.

Well, because we've entered into this particular case of not being able to afford to be given immunity after conviction.

And that is the case of some people standing over there

Every incentive they're working on, they can sell as much as possible, even if they have to expand on it.

The more they can sell, the more they can read, the more they can build gain with it.

So, in that case, you have a witness who tells those who should be serious with the question.

And the thing would be to a theme.

You have to judge them by who the prosecutor is.

So you have to make it look good.

And then you can't cut it down if you're a person.

So that's the situation then.

And it would be such a good .

Well, I'm excited for all of them to do it.

I agree with all of them .

Sure.

And which of the three?

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I have talked to Bob because it has, I mean I've had a lot of

But basically, they're going to be asked, and I want them to be able to agree, Bob, John, and, of course, the community will talk to them.

And that's perfectly possible.

Because they're going to talk about it, and they're going to always put it through the discussion.

On our, for the purpose of the discussion, they're going to understand you correctly.

Correct.

And so forth and so on.

But I also want you to hold your hand.

I mean, we won't tell you.

I mean, I don't know if you've done it.

We don't want you to leave.

Thank you very much.

I mean, too bad.

We're going to get together the first of the week.

We have an hour down with questions to which the opinion will probably not be recognized today.

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On the other hand, both of them are shooting at a procedure.

That's their chance to get it done.

And they're going to take one hell of an opportunity.

They are telling us, and I've covered all that in my statement, so we're still on it.

You see what I mean?

They haven't even told us yet, but ourselves, we're going to have to do it.

And they are told, and now I'm trying to prepare for the chronology to be able to do it.

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then I think we've got a chance to mitigate it with a different standard.

Ideally, it would be much better for their case to be presented .

Even for the Australian Jets, you have a much greater control over what's said to be a metal injection .

Also, it's going to take time.

I don't think so.

The charges have been much more direct

There should be good rights for that to be.

It's entirely possible, of course, that there should be the will of the anti-crime community.

No question about it.

I'm glad that you know that this is probably just the worst form, judicial form,

I think I really have to watch.

Thank you.

You've got to have the overt act.

You've got to have the overt act that you plan as often as possible

So that gets to be a very difficult change of events to prove.

So I think that's the model we're looking at.

The problem with Peterson is the court over here has not ran it or anything.

They probably aren't so darn sure of their case.

They are not sure.

You don't know they're not.

I'm talking to you about what the process is for, because that's what that's going to be.

About this kind of thing that we're getting at.

They have a very big amount of .

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All right.

And then he goes back, and the next day he comes back and says, I'm going to go a long time.

And then he comes over and over again.

That's where the question is, is there anywhere where there has never been an approach, an approach, you know, asking the lecturer whether the CIA had gone.

They started talking about the CIA.

They say, well, that's what I found.

I think Walton would have never spoken through the original conversation.

Thank you.

I didn't expect you to just call us out of such a conversation.

Well, there's the original conversation.

That's what he agreed with.

I agree with that.

That's what happened.

And could you just say something?

I really don't understand.

Because you wrote John Melrose.

Did you really?

John told me that.

Right.

I have to go.

But what did he say?

In that time, at some point, he was called to the bank, opposed to John, particularly.

He was called to the bank.

That was at the time.

That's the moment.

But he was sent.

It was worse, but he wasn't sent.

He had been locked into the county.

Now, Bush was going to be stationed and stuff, however, because the so-called group was not there.

That was the first real involvement of the group in the thing.

He was often .

Actually, the call by John left for California almost a day ago.

He was up in the car, I think.

And that John was here.

It was an over-the-top thing.

Very brief, about half a day.

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John said he did not know.

John said yes, he decided he didn't press that.

Here's what we've got operations on.

I don't know.

I don't feel it coming down.

I have other stuff.

I'm not sure.

I don't know.

that may not have been .

They may have gone back down there, could have gone on there, and they decided to go up there and be able to .

It's very difficult to get your hands off of the approval of any of this.

But the memorandums that are outstanding, as early as they

The breaking of the internet, obviously, was not the reason.

That was a no-need-to-like tip.

But that was not such out of the question.

That was not his question.

It was more of a habit of his, a habit of his, the breaking of the internet.

Nothing good breaks the internet.

What else was out of the question?

What was happening around that at the time?

What was going on?

Not much.

The thing is, it was not a burglary.

It was not a burglary.

They did not intend to commit even a misdemeanor.

All they intended to do was copy-copy.

And there's no problem with that.

No problem.

Not even...

you have to get up you have to that's that's uh

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How did you get in here?

He said, in October, they got the film back from the FBI with the pictures on it.

Well, my view here, I think that they have the goddamn information.

Or maybe they didn't know what it was.

Now, he tells me now that Dean's going to work on part 15, April 15th.

And being a person, as I've told you about, too, I think that's the way to bring the literary treatment standpoint, which we were trying to get at.

And I said, what was the reason that you didn't do it?

And he said, well, he said, we couldn't figure it out.

We have to recover.

We didn't have any of us over here.

We didn't have the evidence.

We have this photograph.

It's what they do, the photographs of these jackasses out in front of the White House or something.

They had justice for Parkinson's.

They know about it all the time.

This October they had the photographs.

Now one of the things, I don't know about any justice, but I know, when we'd all take a look at it, I know how many of the people, and that's the key to everything.

Well, out there, not even here, oh, John Dollar, I told, I told, I told Heather Henry that, he said, like, I don't know.

But then, after that,

before they decided to fire him up.

Well, I'll tell you what I think.

I think they were embarrassed about having to hand him that information.

They didn't know what the hell to do.

They thought it was nice.

That's not the case.

But then, I think they felt that being there had to be an information, like blackmail.

And therefore, they didn't have time to give any sort of a sign that he served there.

I'm very upset.

I said, well, you know, we've got to get out there, or people are going to decide that we would help.

uh... uh...

No, we didn't.

They don't think we did.

No, but that's what I told Peter.

As far as my knowledge, no information, unless you had told him, I never told him, when he was in the budget, being the only who discovered this, you don't believe me.

And I never knew Peter was even, it doesn't seem possible.

You have any other case, but you see that he knew about this photograph, which that's where he thought he had something on earth.

That's what you told me on April the 5th, when you talked to Jim.

And then they began to look at it again.

What kind of a difference?

Well, they defined it as a main point.

It was the bottom line, and we would turn it over.

And I think the truth is what I'm saying.

I think they should have turned it over.

We didn't.

And I can understand their...

I can understand their constipation, but we have...

Yes, sir.

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They asked us to check under the .

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I can't remember what it was.

26, 5, or something.

Nothing for that person here.

And I'm just telling you, nothing else in the world.

Well, it turns out that the man in the public affairs office is a security reviewer.

But that man on hand ripped what he called his own assessment.

But he just bought it.

He bought it.

He didn't buy it.

He didn't have it.

I said, no.

He said, why not?

I said, no.

He said, why not?

I said, no.

He said, no.

He'd get hurt by a thief.

So at that time, I was out there with the governor.

So I searched the file, and they backed me.

Backed me.

And of course, what was then?

I took out the papers, and I had a package of the whole thing.

I sent it out, and it was pulled.

But that was over and done.

So we landed after.

It was one of those surprises.

We don't need any more of that.

We had a great deal of just very

The power of the nation's will.

Before the U.S. Attorney General, he still had five jobs.

He did a wonderful job.

He was a terrible leader.

Thank you for this.

Very well done.

And he's a very, very capable prosecutor.

He did a fine job.

He's a very good one.

I think I had many problems with the judgment, but I have one more.

I'm sure it gave everybody something to think about.

Thank you.

Well, I must go back to the thing that I was going to say.

Keep the train on track as long as you can.

We'll try to get it organized.

That's current.

I believe that they gave us a time when I didn't think the judge was out.

Well, I have sent one of my superintendents to counsel, so the counsel of the next vice president will be there on the first document to review.

And I'm sure he's going to work with me on that work.

So I'm telling you, it's not up to all of you.

And we have a lot of MSAs who are in that process.

We've got to work on this type of process as for getting people.

So we get that to the family doctor.

to make sure that we got a copy immediately, and to call me immediately and tell me what they're going to report.

And she looked at me, and she's going over to the down-on-the-prosecution National Security Act information, and to advise the court that the requirements for authority of that type of document should be covered.

What I was supposed to be finding is that one of them was being

But he would tell me that it's not what it is, that it's not classified.

But he would tell me that it's not classified.

When he stopped, he had a quick run-down of the documents, and he'll have to get all of them on the server.

That's why we have to get it on him in that way.

We need to have it on the server.

Someone is supposed to send us a copy of the documents as soon as he gets them.

But that same slipper is not his fault.

I wait out on the road.

And I just like somebody there that I know I can trust to get the first look at those guys.

Get on the phone and tell them that they're gone.

Before they're delivered to me.

So you get a quick look.

And we'll at least be able to tell you.

We won't have to wait on the process.

Well, let me tell you, ladies, in the process of finding out who you are, I'm not curious about who you are.

I'm wondering who you are.

I heard he was being beaten up, and I turned around and I said, you know, Mr. Quinn, I don't know what happened, but every time I turned around and I nodded and said, I don't know what happened.

I don't know what happened.

I'm worried about another part of this case.

You can call it the case.

Why do you have to?

I have read these statements.

But Dean has never made a point to deal with these gotchas and show them or prove anything against them.

And he wouldn't think that.

I know he's doing that, but come on.

I think use these gotchas as well.

I think they will relate to that operation.

They may relate to our question.

a much stronger point early on.

But as time has gone by, he's less and less of a kid.

Now, he still doesn't have a family.

And yet, he decided to unload those documents.

He had some documents where he said he would mark his kids.

Surely, he would have held on to those documents.

But he had in his possession the documents of the prostitute.

He carried along some of them.

Now, I can only conclude that the facts that have come out have taken this thing out of the back of the head.

God heard what had said.

They found out about it.

They knew about the breaking of God after God.

A number of other facts which people might have thought of in the history of him have now come out from other places.

And that's the reason we did this.

We give it money.

We're cool with that.

It's a good thing.

So what do you think is best for our movement?

And frankly, if it is, then it gives us advanced knowledge.

But what do you think would best for our movement?

So we have a big advantage.

If you close that down and says that that is his version, not only do we have that, but Wilson, Shapiro, and the rest of them have a document from which they brought him down.

And if you just take it as he said, you've got how far down you can go.

Think about it.

So it really helps with the investigation.

Almost every man has that type of gun.

Or cross-examination.

So the documents... Well, I suppose, though, in terms of looking at his selection of the president, which we've all got to worry about, and particularly the other question, I don't know.

That document is probably sensational.

We've got to be careful about this.

But looking at the selection of the president,

I'm not reading it.

I'm looking at the news magazine.

He has never said, really, far down, that the president was a liar.

That's what he said.

And if he was going to make the charge all the way, that's what he would say.

He has admitted that he rarely comes to you.

I think that he doesn't think so.

It was funny, I had my case laid until September 25th.

I told you, I didn't want you to know what I was going through.

I came down here once, when I signed the will, and I was in the room.

I came down here for 15 minutes.

Briefly, I said, I'm going to invite you.

I said, I'm going to call you.

I said, I'm going to invite you.

until the 27th of February when I began to see if I could get off then and when to return and so forth.

And then the 31st, then the 31st of March on the 5th of May.

So what?

Not really.

So what?

Answer in the heart of Christ, we have to be close to Christ.

He was right to do that.

If you say that, then that's not what I'm praying for.

I don't know if you understand what I mean by that.

I think we've got to be very involved in anybody's knowledge, you know, and I think when you try to sit down and write about it,

Okay, Brad, thank you for giving that call.

I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.

Thank you.