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Nixon & Woods on United States Secret Service and Presidential security

Thursday, May 17, 1973 · 1:47 PM–3:05 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation438-008 on Tape 438StartThursday, May 17, 1973 at 1:47 PMEndThursday, May 17, 1973 at 3:05 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 438-008 ↗

President Nixon directs his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to instruct Secret Service agent Jack Brennan to conduct an immediate, high-priority investigation into threats against the President. Nixon demands a 24-hour turnaround on a comprehensive report detailing historical threats, including prank correspondence and specific incidents dating back to the start of his administration. The objective of this directive is to gather concrete statistical data regarding security risks to bolster the President’s protective posture.

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Oh, Rose.
Yeah.
I want you to pass this to Brandon.
I wanted to tell the Secret Service that without any chance, but on a crash basis, it's important for the President to be carried out immediately, and I expect an action in 24 hours.
They're moving forward over the past four and a half years.
Take every crank and crew and everybody else, and dress up the President with everything else that they have.
I used to get with the head of the Secret Service, Kaiser, and say, Kaiser, this is your job.
I'm not going to, I don't need it, right, 24 hours.
You can get it 24 hours, you can get it 24 days, but my fight is, all right, they have a file, you see, I need the numbers.
Threats, prank letters, blah, blah, blah, blah, we understand.
Okay, incidents, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
We're going to pull paper from it.
You tell Brennan to handle the secret service again.
Nobody else?

On May 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 438-8

Date: May 17, 1973
Time: Unknown between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

        United States Secret Service [USSS]
               -Orders from President
                       -John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
                       -Threats against President
                              -Removal of President
                              -24 hour action report
                       -Richard Kaiser
  • 046-093 1:33 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:33 pm and 1:46 pm.
  • 046-094 1:46 PM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 1:46 pm to 1:47 pm.
  • 438-006 1:46 PM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:46 pm to 1:47 pm.
  • 046-095 1:47 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm.
  • 438-007 1:47 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm.
  • 438-009 1:47 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm.
  • 438-010 1:47 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm.
  • 438-011 1:47 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:47 pm and 3:05 pm.

Conversation 438-008, May 17, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/438-008 (accessed October 12, 2026).