{"conversationCode":"438-019","tapeNumber":438,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-438-019","startDateTime":"1973-05-17T19:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-17T20:01:00.000Z","startDate":"17-May-1973","startTime":"3:54 PM","endDate":"17-May-1973","endTime":"4:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:54 pm and 4:01 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-019 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 438-19\n\nDate: May 17, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:54 pm and 4:01 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-101]","filename":["438-019.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"438-018","nextCode":"438-020","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":1.25,"text":"Go ahead, man."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to facilitate an outgoing call. This brief interaction served as a logistical step to connect the President with another party. No substantive policy discussions or administrative decisions occurred during this brief exchange.","topics":["White House operator","Telecommunications","Presidential communication","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:09:31.454Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operator","telecommunications","presidential-communication","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"438-019.mp3","bytes":294912,"durationSec":9.07,"bitrate":260216,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/438-019.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/438-019","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/438/conversation-438-019","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}