{"conversationCode":"438-021","tapeNumber":438,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-438-021","startDateTime":"1973-05-17T20:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-17T20:08:00.000Z","startDate":"17-May-1973","startTime":"4:02 PM","endDate":"17-May-1973","endTime":"4:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On May 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:02 pm and 4:08 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 438-21\n\nDate: May 17, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:02 pm and 4:08 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods [?].\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo’s arrival","filename":["438-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"438-020","nextCode":"438-022","transcript":[{"start":0.67,"end":3.1,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to coordinate the logistics surrounding the arrival of his close confidant, Charles G. “Bebe” Rebozo. The brief discussion focused on managing the President's schedule to accommodate Rebozo’s visit. No further policy or strategic developments were addressed during this transitionary exchange.","topics":["Bebe Rebozo","Rose Mary Woods","Presidential schedule","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:09:42.100Z"},"topicSlugs":["bebe-rebozo","rose-mary-woods","presidential-schedule","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"438-021.mp3","bytes":350208,"durationSec":10.85,"bitrate":258138,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/438-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/438-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/438/conversation-438-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}