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Conversation 438-023

TapeTape 438StartTuesday, May 22, 1973 at 9:34 AMEndTuesday, May 22, 1973 at 9:55 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On May 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:34 am and 9:55 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-023 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 438-23

Date: May 22, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:34 am and 9:55 am
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s schedule

       President’s schedule
              -Republican leadership meeting
                      -William E. Timmons
                      -Agricultural bill
                      -Housing bill
                      -Alaska pipeline
                      -Wildcard
              -Rogers C. B. Morton, Claude S. Brinegar [?]
                      -Energy conservation
                      -Charles J. DiBona
              -Inter-American Defense Forum
                      -Military
              -Merchant Marine achievement award
                      -James L. Buckley and Jacob K. Javits
                              -New York
              -Robert J. Dole
              -Albert E. Sindlinger
              -Elliot L. Richardson
              -George P. Schultz, Herbert Stein, Roy L. Ash
                      -Haig
                              -President’s telephone call
              -Timmons’s suggestions
                      -Case file

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:55 am.
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What's the matter?
I don't know.
Oh, I thought he was coming over here.
Okay.
Al told me you're very busy the next couple of days.
You have to let him know.
Now I'm going to just check to see what he said on Wednesday.
Fine, fine.
Good girl.
Good girl.
Good girl.
Good girl.
Good girl.
This is related to an agricultural field, which is very bad.
It's an Alaska field that's coming up.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
It's an Alaska pipeline.
It's very hard.
It's going to be a regular field.
Your leadership is wild for us, Chris.
I get that.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's going to be very good.
It's going to be very good.
It's going to be very good.
It's going to be very good.
Okay.
There is an error in S4.
This is an S organization.
Basically, uh,
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
Excuse me.
The man is from New York, roughly from Javison.
He's behind the scenes.
You can have him ready.
All right.
You know, on the Wednesday, the door was from the schedule.
That's all it is.
It's a very free meeting.
Last week you said you were sitting with her.
No, I don't want to sit with her.
Well, yes, I don't want to sit with her.
We don't want to...
I know that I... Al is comfortable sitting with her.
He is a comfortable...
We've got to find out whether they're ready or not.
Whenever they're ready.
I'm not calling you.
I want to.
Just stay with me.
That's the answer.
I don't want to hear any more of that.
I just want to listen to this.
I'm just living here, so I can live it all.
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