{"conversationCode":"438-029","tapeNumber":438,"conversationNumber":29,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-438-029","startDateTime":"1973-05-22T15:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-22T15:35:00.000Z","startDate":"22-May-1973","startTime":"11:34 AM","endDate":"22-May-1973","endTime":"11:35 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:34 am to 11:35 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-029 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 438-29\n\nDate: May 22, 1973\nTime: 11:34 am -11:35 am\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-140]","filename":["438-029.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"438-028","nextCode":"438-030","transcript":[{"start":4.1,"end":21.38,"text":"uh on that thing that they maybe we better test that right"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to discuss the functional status of the White House taping system. The brief exchange focused on the necessity of verifying that recording equipment was operating correctly. This interaction underscores the administration's active oversight of internal surveillance procedures during the intensifying Watergate scandal.","topics":["White House taping system","surveillance","Watergate","administrative procedures","internal security"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:10:25.935Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-taping-system","surveillance","watergate","administrative-procedures","internal-security"],"audioDurationSec":21,"audioFiles":[{"file":"438-029.mp3","bytes":686080,"durationSec":21.33,"bitrate":257280,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/438-029.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/438-029","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/438/conversation-438-029","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}