{"conversationCode":"438-035","tapeNumber":438,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-438-035","startDateTime":"1973-05-22T16:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-22T16:50:00.000Z","startDate":"22-May-1973","startTime":"12:38 PM","endDate":"22-May-1973","endTime":"12:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On May 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 12:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 438-35\n\nDate: May 22, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:38 pm and 12:50 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person [Alexander M. Haig, Jr. ?].\n\n       Watergate\n             -Forthcoming White Paper\n                    -Cover memorandum\n                           -Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n                           -J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.","filename":["438-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"438-034","nextCode":"438-036","transcript":[{"start":12.42,"end":16.34,"text":"Well, what I meant is I don't want to lose out."},{"start":16.36,"end":20.05,"text":"Well, that is the main thing that you're going to do, right?"},{"start":22.99,"end":24.05,"text":"Good, good."},{"start":24.13,"end":25.07,"text":"I can't remember any of them."},{"start":25.47,"end":28.83,"text":"I'm trying to remember one."},{"start":28.85,"end":29.89,"text":"Yes, that one is one."},{"start":29.98,"end":34.26,"text":"You and Frank, your grandfather."},{"start":34.28,"end":34.68,"text":"Do you think so?"},{"start":34.7,"end":36.6,"text":"Yes."},{"start":36.62,"end":38.46,"text":"Well, Frank and you."},{"start":38.76,"end":39.18,"text":"Do you think so?"},{"start":40.62,"end":43.8,"text":"All right, what are you on?"},{"start":43.9,"end":47.65,"text":"All right, if you don't want me to do, you're on for 30 minutes."},{"start":47.69,"end":50.42,"text":"All right, as far as that change was concerned, it was all right."},{"start":52.94,"end":57.61,"text":"I think it's better, what does that mean right now?"},{"start":57.63,"end":58.25,"text":"All right, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Haig met to coordinate the development of a Watergate White Paper, specifically focusing on the drafting of a cover memorandum. They reviewed the collaborative contributions of Raymond K. Price, Jr. and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. regarding the document's structure. The discussion centered on finalizing the strategy for this formal response to ongoing political pressures.","topics":["Watergate","White Paper","J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.","Raymond K. Price, Jr.","Public Relations","Administration Strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:10:57.573Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","white-paper","j-fred-buzhardt-jr","raymond-k-price-jr","public-relations","administration-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":62,"audioFiles":[{"file":"438-035.mp3","bytes":1992704,"durationSec":62.15,"bitrate":256516,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/438-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/438-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/438/conversation-438-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}