{"conversationCode":"439-024","tapeNumber":439,"conversationNumber":24,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-439-024","startDateTime":"1973-05-21T21:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-21T21:25:00.000Z","startDate":"21-May-1973","startTime":"5:25 PM","endDate":"21-May-1973","endTime":"5:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On May 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 439-024 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 439-24\n\nDate: May 21, 1973\nTime: 5:25 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nPresident talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\f                                              -20-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 439-24 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-130]","filename":["439-024.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"439-023","nextCode":"439-025","transcript":[{"start":1.48,"end":13.29,"text":"Yeah, hey Pat, I just want to tell you that I, that I'll tell you that I've got to work on another plan for tomorrow, so I've got to come over tomorrow."},{"start":13.3,"end":15.55,"text":"Okay, I'm going to take care of it."},{"start":15.57,"end":17.21,"text":"Alright, bye bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon informs First Lady Pat Nixon of a change in his schedule, necessitating that he return to the Old Executive Office Building the following day to work on an alternative plan. The First Lady acknowledges the adjustment and confirms she will manage her own affairs accordingly. This brief exchange reflects the President's ongoing logistical adjustments during a period of high political pressure.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Pat Nixon","White House logistics","Executive work routine"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:13:23.389Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","pat-nixon","white-house-logistics","executive-work-routine"],"audioDurationSec":22,"audioFiles":[{"file":"439-024.mp3","bytes":718848,"durationSec":22.35,"bitrate":257344,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.424Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.771Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/439-024.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/439-024","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/439/conversation-439-024","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}