{"conversationCode":"439-028","tapeNumber":439,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-439-028","startDateTime":"1973-05-21T21:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-21T21:35:00.000Z","startDate":"21-May-1973","startTime":"5:34 PM","endDate":"21-May-1973","endTime":"5:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.;","description":"On May 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:34 pm to 5:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 439-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 439-28\n\nDate: May 21, 1973\nTime: 5:34 pm - 5:35 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nPresident talked with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-134]","filename":["439-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr."],"prevCode":"439-027","nextCode":"439-029","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.59,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.57,"end":3.9,"text":"You in your office?"},{"start":3.92,"end":5.52,"text":"Oh, you're not over at the end of your session, yeah."},{"start":6.17,"end":6.33,"text":"Oh."},{"start":8.27,"end":8.61,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":8.67,"end":9.59,"text":"Oh, come over."},{"start":9.97,"end":10.79,"text":"I have to leave."},{"start":10.81,"end":13.14,"text":"Maybe we can see what we got."},{"start":13.2,"end":13.28,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. held a brief exchange to coordinate an immediate meeting. The conversation served primarily as a logistical check to confirm Buzhardt's location following his scheduled session. The two agreed to convene shortly thereafter to review ongoing materials and case developments.","topics":["Logistics","Legal counsel","Watergate investigation","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:13:44.424Z"},"topicSlugs":["logistics","legal-counsel","watergate-investigation","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"439-028.mp3","bytes":616448,"durationSec":19.16,"bitrate":257389,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/439-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/439-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/439/conversation-439-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}