{"conversationCode":"439-035","tapeNumber":439,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-439-035","startDateTime":"1973-05-23T17:19:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-23T17:20:00.000Z","startDate":"23-May-1973","startTime":"1:19 PM","endDate":"23-May-1973","endTime":"1:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:19 pm to 1:20 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 439-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 439-35\n\nDate: May 23, 1973\nTime: 1:19 pm - 1:20 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nPresident talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-170]\n\f                                               -26-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                 Conversation 439-36 (cont’d)","filename":["439-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"439-034","nextCode":"439-036","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":8.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":9.01,"end":23.23,"text":"How many of you are involved in that thing tonight?"},{"start":23.25,"end":25.19,"text":"I think we both have it here, and he will be president of the Blair House."},{"start":25.21,"end":25.83,"text":"I think that's better."},{"start":25.85,"end":27.49,"text":"I don't want to go off the top of this."},{"start":29.77,"end":37.58,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly conferred regarding the logistics of an upcoming event and the appointment of an individual to lead the Blair House. Nixon expressed a preference for the specific administrative arrangement being proposed to ensure proper management. The discussion concluded with a consensus to proceed with the planned approach for the evening's proceedings.","topics":["Blair House","Personnel appointments","White House administration","Event logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:14:22.167Z"},"topicSlugs":["blair-house","personnel-appointments","white-house-administration","event-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":46,"audioFiles":[{"file":"439-035.mp3","bytes":1484800,"durationSec":46.27,"bitrate":256737,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.773Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/439-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/439-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/439/conversation-439-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}