{"conversationCode":"439-038","tapeNumber":439,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-439-038","startDateTime":"1973-05-23T18:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-23T19:27:00.000Z","startDate":"23-May-1973","startTime":"2:15 PM","endDate":"23-May-1973","endTime":"3:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On May 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:15 pm and 3:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 439-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 439-38\n\nDate: May 23, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:15 pm and 3:27 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\f                                               -31-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation 439-38 (cont’d)\n\nPresident met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       President’s schedule [?]\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 3:27 pm.","filename":["439-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"439-037","nextCode":"439-039","transcript":[{"start":13.9,"end":17.91,"text":"Okay, sir, maybe I'll wake up your own caller."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal valet, Manolo Sanchez, in the Old Executive Office Building. The brief discussion primarily concerned the management of the President's daily schedule. No major policy developments occurred during this brief interaction.","topics":["Manolo Sanchez","Presidential schedule","White House staff","Daily routine"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:14:38.006Z"},"topicSlugs":["manolo-sanchez","presidential-schedule","white-house-staff","daily-routine"],"audioDurationSec":23,"audioFiles":[{"file":"439-038.mp3","bytes":731136,"durationSec":22.73,"bitrate":257291,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.774Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/439-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/439-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/439/conversation-439-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}