{"conversationCode":"439-044","tapeNumber":439,"conversationNumber":44,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-439-044","startDateTime":"1973-05-23T19:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-23T19:58:00.000Z","startDate":"23-May-1973","startTime":"3:36 PM","endDate":"23-May-1973","endTime":"3:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Yates, Nellie L.; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On May 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Nellie L. Yates, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:36 pm and 3:58 pm. 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Yates and Manolo Sanchez.\n\n       Greeting\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 3:58 pm.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       Yates’s note to President\n              -Watergate\n                      -President’s impressions\n                              -Public reaction\n\n       Refreshments\n\n       Yates’s note to President\n              -Watergate\n              -President’s impression\n                      -Sadness of Yates\n\n       President’s conduct of office\n              -President’s mood\n\f                                                -35-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation 439-44 (cont’d)\n\n              -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman\n              -Response to Watergate\n\n       Yates’s schedule\n\n       Instruction to Yates\n               -Ronald L. Ziegler\n               -Delivery of book\n\n       Refreshments\n\n       Instruction to Yates\n               -Delivery of book\n               -Ziegler\n\n       Yates’s note to the President\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nYates left at an unknown time before 3:58 pm.","filename":["439-044.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Yates, Nellie L.","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"439-043","nextCode":"439-045","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":13.44,"text":"I don't know what you're saying."},{"start":14.2,"end":19.19,"text":"Well, I figured."},{"start":32.48,"end":52.7,"text":"I felt something like that all of a sudden."},{"start":52.72,"end":53.22,"text":"Everybody would be happy."},{"start":53.24,"end":53.44,"text":"Everybody."},{"start":53.46,"end":54.52,"text":"Well, it goes a way, and we try to keep people happy."},{"start":54.54,"end":56.33,"text":"There are lots of people in the country, not only in the country, but here in Washington."},{"start":56.35,"end":57.05,"text":"We have a lot of friends out there."},{"start":57.07,"end":57.79,"text":"We're going to be able to meet them."},{"start":57.81,"end":58.71,"text":"But now, this is part of the self-reflection."},{"start":83.92,"end":100,"text":"I think we've got a copy."},{"start":117.33,"end":133.62,"text":"Well, that was the nicest thing that ever happened to me."},{"start":133.64,"end":134.54,"text":"For a long time, I was in a roster of others."},{"start":134.56,"end":135.06,"text":"So that is what happened."},{"start":135.09,"end":136.25,"text":"One time for me, that was because I was in a secure house."},{"start":136.27,"end":137.17,"text":"And one day, I was on the side of the circle."},{"start":137.19,"end":138.01,"text":"One day, I was on the side of the circle."},{"start":138.03,"end":138.41,"text":"I had to walk away."},{"start":138.43,"end":139.25,"text":"One day, I was on the side of the circle."},{"start":143.6,"end":166.11,"text":"As a matter of fact, you know, I have a couple of connections with Mike."},{"start":166.13,"end":166.71,"text":"I have a connection with Joe."},{"start":166.73,"end":167.31,"text":"I have a connection with Joe."},{"start":167.33,"end":167.91,"text":"I have a connection with Joe."},{"start":167.93,"end":168.51,"text":"I have a connection with Joe."},{"start":179.53,"end":203.53,"text":"That's what we're talking about."},{"start":203.55,"end":203.83,"text":"You know what?"},{"start":209.59,"end":237.9,"text":"... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":243.54,"end":271.52,"text":"Okay."},{"start":272.81,"end":281.49,"text":"Hey."},{"start":281.51,"end":281.59,"text":"Hey."},{"start":303,"end":327.94,"text":"Okay."},{"start":327.96,"end":328.06,"text":"Okay."},{"start":328.08,"end":328.19,"text":"Okay."},{"start":333.43,"end":360.33,"text":"I just wonder if you could, if you have to do the rest of the day, if you don't know how to do it, if you have to know how to do it, if you have to learn it, if you have to learn how to do it, if you have to learn how to do it,"},{"start":361.14,"end":388.02,"text":"Did you say that I was sick?"},{"start":388.05,"end":388.32,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":388.35,"end":388.62,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":388.64,"end":388.93,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":388.94,"end":389.23,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":389.25,"end":389.53,"text":"I didn't know."},{"start":399.16,"end":408.59,"text":"You can go around."},{"start":408.61,"end":418.23,"text":"You can laugh."},{"start":418.25,"end":418.49,"text":"That's okay."},{"start":418.51,"end":418.85,"text":"What do you want?"},{"start":418.87,"end":418.97,"text":"Here."},{"start":418.99,"end":421.01,"text":"I saw this."},{"start":421.04,"end":421.18,"text":"Sugar."},{"start":421.2,"end":421.98,"text":"I got your coffee, but sugar."},{"start":427.56,"end":439.02,"text":"Oh, we can give that to Ron, he'll say, rather than rip that, we'll just give this to Kevin over here."},{"start":439.04,"end":444.13,"text":"Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Nellie L. Yates and Manolo Sanchez to discuss the prevailing climate of the administration during the ongoing Watergate scandal. The participants exchanged impressions regarding public reaction, the President’s current mood, and the departure of key aides H.R. Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman. Nixon also provided administrative instructions to Yates concerning the delivery of a book to Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler.","topics":["Watergate scandal","Presidential administration","Public opinion","H.R. Haldeman","John D. Ehrlichman","Ronald L. 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