{"conversationCode":"440-007","tapeNumber":440,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-440-007","startDateTime":"1973-05-22T18:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-22T18:53:00.000Z","startDate":"22-May-1973","startTime":"2:52 PM","endDate":"22-May-1973","endTime":"2:53 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On May 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:52 pm to 2:53 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 440-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 440-7\n\nDate: May 22, 1973\nTime: 2:52 pm - 2:53 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\f                                               -4-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                         Conversation No. 440-7 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-149]","filename":["440-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"440-006","nextCode":"440-008","transcript":[{"start":4.72,"end":26.85,"text":"Are you going to break that?"},{"start":47.75,"end":60.33,"text":"I don't care, but you and I have got to understand this."},{"start":60.35,"end":63.39,"text":"You've got a lot of freedom."},{"start":63.41,"end":64.82,"text":"You've got a lot of freedom."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief, informal discussion regarding the nature and extent of Ziegler's professional autonomy. The conversation centers on the President clarifying the degree of freedom granted to his press secretary in his official duties. No specific policy decisions were recorded during this brief exchange.","topics":["White House Staff","Press Relations","Presidential Authority","Ronald Ziegler","Executive Office"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:16:04.402Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-staff","press-relations","presidential-authority","ronald-ziegler","executive-office"],"audioDurationSec":91,"audioFiles":[{"file":"440-007.mp3","bytes":2926592,"durationSec":91.33,"bitrate":256343,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:40.960Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/440-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/440-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/440/conversation-440-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}