{"conversationCode":"440-013","tapeNumber":440,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-440-013","startDateTime":"1973-05-22T20:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-22T20:44:00.000Z","startDate":"22-May-1973","startTime":"4:40 PM","endDate":"22-May-1973","endTime":"4:44 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.;","description":"On May 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:40 pm to 4:44 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 440-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 440-13\n\nDate: May 22, 1973\nTime: 4:40 pm - 4:44 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with William E. Timmons.\n\n[See Conversation No. 46-153]","filename":["440-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Timmons, William E."],"prevCode":"440-012","nextCode":"440-014","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.05,"text":"Bill."},{"start":97.64,"end":101.64,"text":"and also the public need of our action."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with legislative liaison William E. Timmons to discuss strategies for managing public perception and the administration's policy response to ongoing political pressures. The brief exchange focused on coordinating legislative action with the necessity of publicly articulating the White House's position. This meeting served as a direct effort to align executive messaging with congressional maneuvers during a period of intense scrutiny.","topics":["Legislative Liaison","Public Relations","Political Strategy","Administration Policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:16:36.926Z"},"topicSlugs":["legislative-liaison","public-relations","political-strategy","administration-policy"],"audioDurationSec":195,"audioFiles":[{"file":"440-013.mp3","bytes":6236160,"durationSec":194.77,"bitrate":256140,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/440-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/440-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/440/conversation-440-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}