Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 440-038 Date: Thursday, May 24, 1973 at 1:36 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scott, Hugh Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/440-038 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] John, I thought you should know that Ziegler and all of our fellows here thought you were never so great as you were yesterday. [0:13] And I'm very grateful. [0:18] And I'm most grateful. [0:32] Now, let's stick to what you read. [0:36] You say that's one thing we can't say, that without secrecy and secret diplomacy, we wouldn't have had the Chinese, we wouldn't have had the Soviet limitation, and the POW would still be in Vietnam, in North Vietnam. [0:51] And therefore, it is a great, you know, it's a great irony when [1:01] to steal the secrets and publish them, and then, though, to try to protect the national security so that we can conduct negotiations for peace.