Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 440 › Conversation 440-064

Nixon & Bull on White House administration and Staff relations

Tuesday, May 29, 1973 · 1:52 PM–1:54 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation440-064 on Tape 440StartTuesday, May 29, 1973 at 1:52 PMEndTuesday, May 29, 1973 at 1:54 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 440-064 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to discuss administrative arrangements and preferences regarding potential meetings. Nixon explicitly rejected a proposed format involving sitting down for a question-and-answer session, preferring a more informal or limited interaction. The conversation reflects the President's firm refusal to engage in specific procedural requests despite Bull's attempts to discuss them.

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I don't think that's a good idea.
I don't want to sit around and sit down and ask you questions.
I just want to stand up to you as much as possible.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not.
No, I'm going to get to that.
Let me tell you, I just don't want to go on.
I just want to use the idea to have a budget.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
So there.

NARA Description

On May 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:52 pm to 1:54 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 440-064 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 440-64

Date: May 29, 1973
Time: 1:52 pm -1:54 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 39-33]

Also recorded on May 29, 1973

  • 039-029 1:46 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 1:46 pm to 1:47 pm.
  • 039-030 1:47 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 1:47 pm.
  • 039-031 1:47 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas Hart talked on the telephone from 1:47 pm to 1:48 pm.
  • 440-061 1:47 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 1:47 pm.
  • 440-062 1:47 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas Hart met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:47 pm to 1:48 pm.
  • 039-032 1:48 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:48 pm and 1:52 pm.
  • 440-063 1:48 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:48 pm and 1:52 pm.
  • 039-033 1:52 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:52 pm to 1:54 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 440-064, May 29, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/440-064 (accessed October 10, 2026).