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Conversation 441-005

TapeTape 441StartMonday, June 4, 1973 at 9:12 AMEndMonday, June 4, 1973 at 9:38 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:12 am and 9:38 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 441-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 441-5

Date: June 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:12 am and 9:38 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     Economic paper
          -Forthcoming meeting with economic policy analysts
                -Unreadiness

     President’s schedule
           -Economic meeting
                 -Postponement
                 -George P. Shultz’s schedule
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                                                               Conversation No. 441-5 (cont’d)

                      -European Trip
           -Review of White House tapes
                -President’s demeanor

     Economic paper
          -John B. Connally
          -Camp David
                -Presentation of program
          -Herbert Stein
                -Analysis
          -Thirty-day freeze
                -Possible effect
                -Public relations
                -Shultz
          -Gas tax
          -Freeze
          -Energy
                -Discussions
          -President’s schedule
                -Economic meeting

     Watergate
          -J. Fred Buzhardt’s examination of John Dean, III’s files
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Well, I've been through this economic paper and so forth, and I don't feel these guys are ready for a meeting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I guess they can put all the stuff I have to do today, you know, whether or not they want to put the band meeting off for Friday.
If George is leaving for Europe, is that the problem?
It's not the Tuesday either.
I think it would be better for me if we could.
You know, and I clear my day, I want to get this damn thing cleaned up, because I think we could be in a better frame of mind.
What do you think?
Let them meet today.
Let them meet and say that I want to meet with them when they're more in shape.
But I want them to come up, as Connelly did, and David, with a program.
Goddamn if they could.
And if there are those that disagree, they're fine.
I think science paper is the best.
I read it.
And I kind of like it.
I think the combination of one and three is probably it.
I think the breeze is out now.
I looked at it, and 38 reasons I'm thinking about that.
It's no good for the public relations even.
It looks too short.
And it's going to have one hell of a bad effect.
So I rule that out and tell George the breeze is out.
Because the gas tax is out, period.
But all the other things can be in.
So you can either way tell them to rule out the gas tax, rule out the breeze.
And don't mix energy into this package.
All of the energy taken out of this into another package.
Is that fair enough?
Okay, have them meet today, and I'll meet with them tomorrow.
It could be, you got some time tomorrow?
No?
It's bizarre over there, running through that stuff.
All right, you'll get to me as soon as you get some time.
You got some time tomorrow?
No?
It's bizarre over there, runnin' through that stuff.
All right, you'll get to me as soon as you get the time.
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