Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 441-019 Date: Tuesday, June 5, 1973 at 5:21 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ford, Gerald R. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/441-019 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Hello. [0:03] Hello. [0:04] Hi, Gary. [0:05] I had to go up to West Point, so I was just checking on your friend. [0:10] I agree. [0:16] Yeah. [0:19] Yeah, I know. [0:30] is just another one of those stories that didn't work out. [0:35] I appreciate your . [0:36] He's not a vicious law. [0:40] In constitutional debate. [0:47] Well, it's a matter of fact, we've got work to do for the country at this time. [0:51] And by the way, we're going to do it. [0:54] We're not going to let this Watergate stuff distract us. [1:02] I knew he would be pleased. [1:04] I couldn't mention it in the larger group, and I frankly, between you and me, I didn't want to mention it, and you would scoff at me. [1:12] Because you know why in the least, not from you, [1:22] He will be the counselor to the President for the Mexican players, and he will be more of an outsider than you'll work on. [1:31] Also, for your very confidential information, you're going to get rice back July 1st. [1:37] On the Price thing, that's got to be just between you and me, because he has a parade of conflict of interest problem, and I've got to speak to his boss about it. [1:44] Everybody's got to blow right up. [1:47] But you see, with Mel and Price, and Al, we'll have a team there that Bart can handle at a time. [1:56] Mr. Timmons and his group will still do all the legwork, but I really think we've got a great team, which will really be better than the one we had before. [2:10] I knew that. [2:11] As a matter of fact, I look over there and do that mainly because these guys have got to think that I'm acting on it, too. [2:17] And then we are. [2:18] We are. [2:21] And actually, you ought to see that every paper that comes in, Jerry, has got Jim and Peter Ford and he's a real fighter. [2:28] All right. [2:36] Yeah. [2:36] All right. [2:37] I'll give him a call. [2:38] Fine. [2:38] Thank you. [2:39] Thank you. [2:47] As a matter of fact, I look over there to him and do that, mainly because these guys have got to think that I'm acting on it, too. [2:53] And we are. [2:54] We are. [2:57] And actually, you ought to see that every paper that comes in, Jerry, has got Jim and Peter Ford against him. [3:03] He's a real fighter. [3:04] All right. [3:08] Yeah. [3:12] All right. [3:12] I'll give him a call. [3:14] Thank you. [3:15] Thank you.