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Conversation 441-019

TapeTape 441StartTuesday, June 5, 1973 at 5:21 PMEndTuesday, June 5, 1973 at 5:25 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ford, Gerald R.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
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On June 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald R. Ford met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:21 pm to 5:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 441-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 441-19

Date: June 5, 1973
Time: 5:21 pm - 5:25 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Gerald R. Ford.

[See Conversation No. 39-93]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Hello.
Hi, Gary.
I had to go up to West Point, so I was just checking on your friend.
I agree.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
is just another one of those stories that didn't work out.
I appreciate your .
He's not a vicious law.
In constitutional debate.
Well, it's a matter of fact, we've got work to do for the country at this time.
And by the way, we're going to do it.
We're not going to let this Watergate stuff distract us.
I knew he would be pleased.
I couldn't mention it in the larger group, and I frankly, between you and me, I didn't want to mention it, and you would scoff at me.
Because you know why in the least, not from you,
He will be the counselor to the President for the Mexican players, and he will be more of an outsider than you'll work on.
Also, for your very confidential information, you're going to get rice back July 1st.
On the Price thing, that's got to be just between you and me, because he has a parade of conflict of interest problem, and I've got to speak to his boss about it.
Everybody's got to blow right up.
But you see, with Mel and Price, and Al, we'll have a team there that Bart can handle at a time.
Mr. Timmons and his group will still do all the legwork, but I really think we've got a great team, which will really be better than the one we had before.
I knew that.
As a matter of fact, I look over there and do that mainly because these guys have got to think that I'm acting on it, too.
And then we are.
We are.
And actually, you ought to see that every paper that comes in, Jerry, has got Jim and Peter Ford and he's a real fighter.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll give him a call.
Fine.
Thank you.
Thank you.
As a matter of fact, I look over there to him and do that, mainly because these guys have got to think that I'm acting on it, too.
And we are.
We are.
And actually, you ought to see that every paper that comes in, Jerry, has got Jim and Peter Ford against him.
He's a real fighter.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll give him a call.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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