{"conversationCode":"442-010","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-010","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T16:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T16:51:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"12:35 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"12:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:35 pm and 12:51 pm. 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Dean, III.\n\n[See Conversation No. 866-004]\n\nThe President stopped the recording at 12:51 pm.\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:35 pm.\n\n       Order\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.","filename":["442-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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Dean III while meeting with an unidentified individual in the Old Executive Office Building. The conversation primarily involved evaluating the content and potential impact of the taped discussion with Dean. The President and the visitor discussed strategies for managing the information contained within these recordings and deliberated on how to approach its public or internal handling.","topics":["John W. 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