{"conversationCode":"442-011","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-011","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T16:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T16:51:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"12:35 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"12:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:35 pm and 12:51 pm. 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Dean, III.\n\n[See Conversation No. 866-004]\n\nThe President stopped the recording at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:35 pm.\n\n       Order\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.\n\nThe President played a portion of a recording of a meeting with Dean.\n\n[See Conversation 866-004]\n\nThe President stopped the recording at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time after 12:35 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 442-011A]\n\n[Begin telephone conversation]\n\n       Richard G. Kleindienst\n              -Meeting\n              -Testimony [?]\n\n[End telephone conversation]\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:35 pm.\n\n       Request\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.\n\nThe President played a portion of a recording of a meeting with Dean.\n\n[See Conversation 866-004]\n\nThe President stopped the recording at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.\n\nThe President played a portion of a recording of a meeting with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See Conversation 866-016]\n\nThe President stopped the recording at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.\n\nThe President played a portion of a recording of a meeting with Dean.\n\n[See Conversation 866-017]\n\nThe President stopped the recording at an unknown time before 12:51 pm.","filename":["442-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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