{"conversationCode":"442-017","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-017","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T17:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T17:25:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"1:23 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"1:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:23 pm to 1:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-017 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-017\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: 1:23 pm - 1:25 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary\nCommittee…,” pages 32-33 (.pdf pages 36-37). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff\nreviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under\nthe provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[See also Conversation No. 039-067]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End transcribed portion]","filename":["442-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-016","nextCode":"442-018","transcript":[{"start":2.19,"end":24.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":24.73,"end":25.02,"text":"Got some more?"},{"start":25.04,"end":25.3,"text":"I understand."},{"start":25.32,"end":26.6,"text":"I want the stuff that marks them first before you're consistent."},{"start":26.62,"end":27.06,"text":"Have you got too many?"},{"start":27.08,"end":27.94,"text":"Or do you want to have your terminology on?"},{"start":27.96,"end":28.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.08,"end":28.2,"text":"The..."},{"start":28.77,"end":50.67,"text":"Bob Holman has it basically, I don't know if you guys have seen him around."},{"start":50.69,"end":51.47,"text":"Just call him and say, after March 1st."},{"start":51.49,"end":51.89,"text":"Oh, what did I have?"},{"start":51.91,"end":52.23,"text":"Yeah, March 1st."},{"start":52.25,"end":52.75,"text":"I've got the 27th, right?"},{"start":52.77,"end":53.09,"text":"March 1st, okay."},{"start":53.11,"end":53.71,"text":"See what he has between there."},{"start":55.26,"end":71.2,"text":"Okay, go ahead and ask Bob if you can."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull coordinate the organization and review of specific administrative or historical records, specifically referencing a cutoff date of March 1st. Nixon directs Bull to consult with Bob Holman to identify and retrieve material relevant to this timeframe. The exchange underscores an effort to sort and track documentation, though the precise nature of the materials remains implicit.","topics":["White House records","administrative organization","Bob Holman","record retrieval","March 1st documentation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:26:13.031Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-records","administrative-organization","bob-holman","record-retrieval","march-1st-documentation"],"audioDurationSec":78,"audioFiles":[{"file":"442-017.mp3","bytes":2490368,"durationSec":77.71,"bitrate":256386,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","transcriptGapSeconds":60,"transcriptGapShare":0.77,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/442-017.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-017","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/442/conversation-442-017","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}