{"conversationCode":"442-030","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":30,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-030","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:29:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:27 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"2:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:27 pm to 2:29 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-030 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-030\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: 2:27 pm - 2:29 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary\nCommittee…,” page 42-43 (.pdf page 46-47). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff reviewed\nthe transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the\nprovisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[See also Conversation No. 039-077]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End transcribed portion]","filename":["442-030.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-029","nextCode":"442-031","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":18.94,"text":"How are we coming through?"},{"start":18.96,"end":19.5,"text":"I don't know, I'm on paper."},{"start":19.52,"end":20.04,"text":"I, that isn't what I want."},{"start":20.06,"end":21.16,"text":"I said I've got to have the march done first, you know."},{"start":21.18,"end":22.04,"text":"I just, I don't know what I want, you know."},{"start":22.06,"end":23.02,"text":"If we get to March 6th, we're going to get that."},{"start":23.04,"end":24.06,"text":"That's what I need to start with, I need to see it."},{"start":29.33,"end":43.83,"text":"Well, if you've got the 16 and stuff, you won't get the much, you know, just bring it over here and I'll cycle around that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull discussed the ongoing process of reviewing and organizing White House tape logs. The President expressed an urgent need to examine specific logs from March 1973, particularly those dated March 6, to facilitate his review process. Nixon instructed Bull to prioritize these materials and deliver them for his immediate inspection.","topics":["White House tapes","Tape logs","Archival management","Presidential review","March 1973"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:27:25.594Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tapes","tape-logs","archival-management","presidential-review","march-1973"],"audioDurationSec":51,"audioFiles":[{"file":"442-030.mp3","bytes":1642496,"durationSec":51.19,"bitrate":256706,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:41.361Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/442-030.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-030","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/442/conversation-442-030","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}