{"conversationCode":"442-033","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-033","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T21:00:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:50 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"5:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-033 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-033\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary\nCommittee…,” page 44 (.pdf page 48). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff reviewed the\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\ntranscript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the\nprovisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End of transcribed portion]\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:00 pm.","filename":["442-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-032","nextCode":"442-034","transcript":[{"start":38.27,"end":54.82,"text":"So, is that ready for Steve or me now?"},{"start":54.84,"end":55.28,"text":"How long was this one?"},{"start":55.3,"end":55.62,"text":"Fifteen minutes."},{"start":55.64,"end":56.04,"text":"Twenty-five minutes."},{"start":56.06,"end":56.46,"text":"Twenty-five minutes."},{"start":56.48,"end":57.34,"text":"Twenty-five minutes is a little bit longer."},{"start":57.36,"end":57.88,"text":"Today, Steve can't set it."},{"start":66.2,"end":78.59,"text":"If you're having difficulty hearing, the other option is to go to earphones, which makes it slightly more audible."},{"start":78.61,"end":79.73,"text":"And it's good to get a little comfortable after a while."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his aide, Stephen B. Bull, met to discuss the technical operation and listening quality of the White House recording equipment. The participants evaluated the duration of recent tape segments and troubleshooting methods, such as the use of earphones, to improve the audibility of the recordings. This discussion highlights the administrative focus on maintaining the internal taping system during a period of intense scrutiny.","topics":["White House taping system","recording equipment","audio quality","administrative procedures","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:27:43.142Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-taping-system","recording-equipment","audio-quality","administrative-procedures","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":85,"audioFiles":[{"file":"442-033.mp3","bytes":2717696,"durationSec":84.84,"bitrate":256265,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:41.362Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/442-033.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-033","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/442/conversation-442-033","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}