{"conversationCode":"442-035","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-035","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T21:00:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:50 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"5:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-035\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary\nCommittee…,” page 45 (.pdf page 49). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff reviewed the\ntranscript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the\nprovisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End transcribed portion]\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:00 pm.\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542","filename":["442-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-034","nextCode":"442-036","transcript":[{"start":0.86,"end":6.82,"text":"All right, ready?"},{"start":6.84,"end":9.04,"text":"This cuts out the experience."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull met in the Old Executive Office Building to discuss administrative or recording-related logistics. The discussion centered on technical aspects of the White House taping system, specifically concerning the editing or omission of certain material. No major policy decisions were reached, as the brief exchange focused on operational procedures regarding recorded content.","topics":["White House taping system","Record management","Administrative logistics","Presidential records"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:27:54.400Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-taping-system","record-management","administrative-logistics","presidential-records"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"442-035.mp3","bytes":466944,"durationSec":14.52,"bitrate":257269,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:41.362Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/442-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/442/conversation-442-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}