{"conversationCode":"442-036","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-036","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T21:00:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:50 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"5:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-036 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-036\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary\nCommittee…,” page 46 (.pdf page 50). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff reviewed the\ntranscript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the\nprovisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End transcribed portion]\n\n       White House tapes\n             -Selections\n                     -Meetings\n                            -Length\n                     -Telephone calls\n                     -John W. Dean, III, Richard A. Moore\n                            -Length\n                     -Preparation\n                     -Dean\n                     -Henry E. Petersen [?]\n                     -March 7, 1973\n                     -Ronald L. Ziegler, Moore\n                     -Telephone call [?]\n                     -Dean, Moore\n                     -March 16, 1973\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                              -Ziegler, Dean\n                              -Length\n                       -Dean, Ziegler, Moore\n                              -[March 14, 1973]\n                       -Length\n                       -Preparation\n                       -March 13, 1973\n                              -Dean, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                       -Preparation\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:00 pm.","filename":["442-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-035","nextCode":"442-037","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":29.11,"text":"... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":30.69,"end":58.39,"text":"... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":65.29,"end":91.03,"text":"Alright, let's take the line first."},{"start":91.05,"end":91.21,"text":"Alright."},{"start":92.91,"end":109.7,"text":"Presentations."},{"start":127.54,"end":152,"text":"Yeah, because she uttered the same thing."},{"start":152.02,"end":152.14,"text":"Right."},{"start":152.16,"end":152.26,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":152.28,"end":152.38,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":152.4,"end":152.5,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":163.9,"end":185.97,"text":"I just recognized the other one."},{"start":185.99,"end":186.57,"text":"I'll have to do this for you."},{"start":186.59,"end":187.23,"text":"This is the 13th of the morning."},{"start":194.18,"end":197.59,"text":"I don't know if any of my brokers got here."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his aide Stephen B. Bull convened in the Old Executive Office Building to review and organize administrative documentation. The discussion focused on managing records and scheduling logistics, specifically referencing the timeline of earlier meetings involving John Dean and other staff members. 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