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Nixon & Bull on White House Tapes and recording equipment

Monday, June 4, 1973 · 8:55 PM–9:39 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation442-063 on Tape 442StartMonday, June 4, 1973 at 8:55 PMEndMonday, June 4, 1973 at 9:39 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 442-063 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull reviewed technical discrepancies in the White House taping system's log entries and meter readings. The discussion focused on reconciling meter segments with actual elapsed time to determine whether specific logs corresponded to genuine recorded conversations. Nixon directed Bull to verify the data to ensure the accuracy of the recorded documentation.

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Doesn't have to be wrong.
You see?
You can't go from 53 to 84.
It's a 21.
2084.
My point is that that's an hour and 10 minutes on a column.
Check it out.
Check it out.
I know, I know it's extended, but the point that I make is that it could be an hour and 50 minutes in the boat.
Check it out, put it down where it actually is.
It's on that tape.
You see, that indicates, Steve, that indicates a conversation from 19... Let's put it a little down there.
That's just the meter.
That's just the meter.
That says, sir, 1933 to 2834, which is an hour and 15 minutes.
Yes, there ain't no telephone conversation at all.
You understand that?
That's a meter reading, sir, not a time, okay, schedule.

NARA Description

On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 9:39 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-063 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 442-63

Date: June 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:55 pm and 9:39 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box
172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary
Committee…,” pages 151-153 (.pdf pages 156-158). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff
reviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under
the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).
 The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

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Bull left at an unknown time before 9:39 pm.

Also recorded on June 5, 1973

  • 442-061 8:40 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:40 pm to 8:55 pm.
  • 442-062 8:55 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 9:39 pm.
  • 442-064 8:55 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 9:39 pm.
  • 442-065 8:55 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 9:39 pm.
  • 442-066 8:55 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 9:39 pm.
  • 039-079 9:39 PM · 10 min — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 9:39 pm to 9:48 pm.
  • 442-067 9:39 PM · 7 min — Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:39 pm to 9:48 pm.
  • 442-068 9:48 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 442-063, June 5, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-063 (accessed October 1, 2026).