{"conversationCode":"442-067","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":67,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-067","startDateTime":"1973-06-05T01:39:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-05T01:48:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"9:39 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"9:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On June 4, 1973, Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:39 pm to 9:48 pm. 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The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff\nreviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under\nthe provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[See also Conversation No. 39-79]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n[End transcribed portion]","filename":["442-067.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"442-066","nextCode":"442-068","transcript":[{"start":1.11,"end":7.4,"text":"So, okay."},{"start":7.42,"end":10.16,"text":"So, hi."},{"start":10.44,"end":15.09,"text":"Hi, hi."},{"start":15.67,"end":17.37,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":17.79,"end":21.21,"text":"Great, great."},{"start":21.23,"end":22.03,"text":"Tomorrow, great accomplishment."},{"start":22.05,"end":25.18,"text":"I just got nine hours to scratch, so I gotta go to bed."},{"start":25.48,"end":33.77,"text":"I didn't realize it was a damn product."},{"start":37.82,"end":42.24,"text":"They didn't find it in the files, but I looked at the stuff."},{"start":42.26,"end":45.59,"text":"Looking back, I can see where he handed the dollar."},{"start":46.03,"end":46.39,"text":"I wasn't bothered."},{"start":47.4,"end":53.19,"text":"Yeah, well I, I just, I'm sick."},{"start":53.21,"end":53.71,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":53.73,"end":53.91,"text":"I'm sick."},{"start":53.93,"end":54.43,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":54.45,"end":54.95,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":54.97,"end":55.47,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":55.49,"end":56.44,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":56.46,"end":57.66,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":57.68,"end":58.18,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":58.2,"end":58.7,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":58.72,"end":59.22,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":59.24,"end":59.74,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":59.76,"end":60.26,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":60.28,"end":61.61,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":61.63,"end":62.13,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":62.15,"end":62.71,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":62.73,"end":63.23,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":63.25,"end":63.75,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":63.77,"end":64.29,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":64.31,"end":64.81,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":64.83,"end":65.33,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":65.35,"end":65.85,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":65.87,"end":66.37,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":66.39,"end":66.89,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":66.92,"end":67.42,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":67.44,"end":67.94,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":67.96,"end":68.46,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":68.48,"end":68.98,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":69,"end":69.5,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":69.52,"end":70.02,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":70.04,"end":70.54,"text":"I miss work all the time."},{"start":70.56,"end":70.94,"text":"I miss work all the"},{"start":82.75,"end":104.94,"text":"Awesome, I see you."},{"start":104.96,"end":105.06,"text":"Mark."},{"start":105.08,"end":105.5,"text":"You'll be there, too."},{"start":105.52,"end":105.92,"text":"You better be 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today."},{"start":332.25,"end":333.75,"text":"Eight hours of listening and taking calls and calls."},{"start":333.77,"end":334.15,"text":"We don't have some."},{"start":334.17,"end":334.83,"text":"I mean, two through Peter's game."},{"start":334.85,"end":335.51,"text":"On the 23rd, I mean, two and one."},{"start":335.53,"end":336.03,"text":"And David, we don't have."},{"start":336.05,"end":337.19,"text":"As far as the health, they are ending up in the health."},{"start":337.21,"end":338.04,"text":"But I tell you, there's nothing in there."},{"start":338.06,"end":339.14,"text":"Nothing in these calls."},{"start":340.37,"end":364.69,"text":"It could have been the 23rd, perhaps, after we talked about the 21st, but after that I was investigating."},{"start":364.71,"end":364.97,"text":"That's right."},{"start":364.99,"end":365.83,"text":"But by then, we'd already gone through it."},{"start":365.86,"end":365.95,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":365.98,"end":366.24,"text":"Bizarre, 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