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Nixon & Bull on White House administration and Workload management

Monday, June 4, 1973 · 9:48 PM–9:54 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation442-068 on Tape 442StartMonday, June 4, 1973 at 9:48 PMEndMonday, June 4, 1973 at 9:54 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 442-068 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the logistical demands and administrative workload involved in reviewing materials or preparing for public-facing obligations. They assessed the time investment required for these tasks, with Bull providing an estimate of the President's daily hours spent on such duties. The exchange reflects the mounting pressure of administrative burdens during this period of the Nixon presidency.

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There's two outstanding days here, the 14th, the 14th floor, and the board was sitting there, you know, 20th.
They were there to take care of you.
You got the best report.
You got the best report.
You start with one co-host.
You just don't have enough.
Sure you don't.
You don't have enough questions.
You just don't have enough.
You just don't have enough.
Right.
How long would I do this today?
I think you did this about nine, an average of about nine hours.
Maybe more, sir.
No, no, not that much.
I wish I was right.
Maybe eight, five, maybe six.
I haven't told the law, but you've got to do it.
Maybe we need to do this.
All these different things tell us what to do.

On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-068 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 442-068

Date: June 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box
172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary
Committee…,” pages 164-165 (.pdf pages 169-170). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff
reviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under
the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).
The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

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Bull left at an unknown time before 9:54 pm.
  • 039-079 9:39 PM · 10 min — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 9:39 pm to 9:48 pm.
  • 442-067 9:39 PM · 7 min — Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:39 pm to 9:48 pm.
  • 442-069 9:48 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm.
  • 039-080 9:54 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:54 pm and 10:04 pm.
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  • 039-082 10:20 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:20 pm and 10:21 pm.
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  • 039-084 10:22 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:22 pm and 10:50 pm.

Conversation 442-068, June 5, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-068 (accessed September 28, 2026).