{"conversationCode":"442-068","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":68,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-068","startDateTime":"1973-06-05T01:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-05T01:54:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"9:48 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"9:54 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-068 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-068\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary\nCommittee…,” pages 164-165 (.pdf pages 169-170). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff\nreviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under\nthe provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).\nThe National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End transcribed portion]\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:54 pm.","filename":["442-068.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-067","nextCode":"442-069","transcript":[{"start":3.47,"end":19.32,"text":"There's two outstanding days here, the 14th, the 14th floor, and the board was sitting there, you know, 20th."},{"start":19.34,"end":20.06,"text":"They were there to take care of you."},{"start":20.08,"end":22.73,"text":"You got the best report."},{"start":22.75,"end":23.23,"text":"You got the best report."},{"start":23.25,"end":23.79,"text":"You start with one co-host."},{"start":23.81,"end":24.35,"text":"You just don't have enough."},{"start":24.37,"end":24.67,"text":"Sure you don't."},{"start":24.69,"end":25.33,"text":"You don't have enough questions."},{"start":25.35,"end":25.89,"text":"You just don't have enough."},{"start":25.91,"end":26.45,"text":"You just don't have enough."},{"start":26.48,"end":26.59,"text":"Right."},{"start":31.45,"end":35.8,"text":"How long would I do this today?"},{"start":35.82,"end":43.03,"text":"I think you did this about nine, an average of about nine hours."},{"start":43.05,"end":45.99,"text":"Maybe more, sir."},{"start":46.02,"end":46.76,"text":"No, no, not that much."},{"start":46.78,"end":47.48,"text":"I wish I was right."},{"start":47.5,"end":48.08,"text":"Maybe eight, five, maybe six."},{"start":48.1,"end":49.18,"text":"I haven't told the law, but you've got to do it."},{"start":49.22,"end":50.8,"text":"Maybe we need to do this."},{"start":50.82,"end":53.43,"text":"All these different things tell us what to do."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the logistical demands and administrative workload involved in reviewing materials or preparing for public-facing obligations. They assessed the time investment required for these tasks, with Bull providing an estimate of the President's daily hours spent on such duties. The exchange reflects the mounting pressure of administrative burdens during this period of the Nixon presidency.","topics":["White House administration","Workload management","Presidential scheduling","Time management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:30:59.338Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","workload-management","presidential-scheduling","time-management"],"audioDurationSec":60,"audioFiles":[{"file":"442-068.mp3","bytes":1910784,"durationSec":59.61,"bitrate":256423,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/442-068.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-068","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/442/conversation-442-068","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}