{"conversationCode":"442-069","tapeNumber":442,"conversationNumber":69,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-442-069","startDateTime":"1973-06-05T01:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-05T01:54:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"9:48 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"9:54 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-069 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 442-069\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:48 pm and 9:54 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n       Bull’s schedule\n\n       Richard A. Moore\n              -Memorandum [memo]\n                    -Bull’s schedule\n                    -Request\n\nThe President and Bull left at an unknown time before 9:54 pm.","filename":["442-069.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"442-068","nextCode":"442-070","transcript":[{"start":13.16,"end":18.82,"text":"But if you get more time, I think it's just going to be more work than time."},{"start":18.84,"end":19.02,"text":"You know?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to discuss scheduling concerns and the administrative management of the President's time. The conversation focused on the practical limitations of the current workload, specifically referencing a memorandum regarding Bull’s schedule and a request involving Richard A. Moore. The interaction centered on the President's desire to optimize his professional commitments against the reality of an overwhelming schedule.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House administration","Richard A. Moore","Workload management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:31:04.883Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-administration","richard-a-moore","workload-management"],"audioDurationSec":24,"audioFiles":[{"file":"442-069.mp3","bytes":782336,"durationSec":24.36,"bitrate":256924,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:41.366Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/442-069.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-069","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/442/conversation-442-069","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}