{"conversationCode":"443-018","tapeNumber":443,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-443-018","startDateTime":"1973-06-06T20:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-06T20:30:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Jun-1973","startTime":"4:24 PM","endDate":"6-Jun-1973","endTime":"4:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Warren, Gerald L.;","description":"On June 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald L. Warren met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:24 pm to 4:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 443-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 443-18\n\nDate: June 6, 1973\nTime: 4:24 pm - 4:30 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Gerald L. Warren.\n\n[See Conversation No. 39-114]\n\f                                               -8-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["443-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Warren, Gerald L."],"prevCode":"443-017","nextCode":"443-019","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":11.93,"text":"Hello."},{"start":11.95,"end":17.8,"text":"Hi, Jerry, how about the story this morning?"},{"start":17.82,"end":18.48,"text":"It would be a great asset to see."},{"start":18.5,"end":18.96,"text":"We have our client now."},{"start":18.98,"end":19.76,"text":"We put him out there about once a week."},{"start":19.78,"end":20.52,"text":"That's perfectly good."},{"start":34.76,"end":59.86,"text":"We kind of were going to act, but we're not going to act the way we want."},{"start":59.88,"end":60.44,"text":"We're going to do something."},{"start":60.46,"end":61.46,"text":"We're not going to have a parade for the students."},{"start":61.48,"end":62.08,"text":"We're going to leave them out."},{"start":62.1,"end":62.7,"text":"We're going to leave them out."},{"start":62.72,"end":63.32,"text":"We're going to leave them out."},{"start":63.34,"end":63.94,"text":"We're going to leave them out."},{"start":63.96,"end":64.56,"text":"We're going to leave them out."},{"start":74.8,"end":89.24,"text":"Yeah, he was, he was very big, you know, a lot."},{"start":89.26,"end":92.1,"text":"He was actually, what about, like, he was running ahead, you know, like, he was running ahead, you know, like, he was running ahead, you know,"},{"start":110.55,"end":111.55,"text":"."},{"start":111.57,"end":111.93,"text":"."},{"start":114.83,"end":119.32,"text":"."},{"start":122.1,"end":127.17,"text":"."},{"start":130.94,"end":131.1,"text":"."},{"start":132.32,"end":137.99,"text":"."},{"start":139.06,"end":153.88,"text":"the files by the fbi and these numbers are totally solid"},{"start":229.88,"end":240.88,"text":"I was not saying that he was going to report it."},{"start":240.91,"end":245.09,"text":"In the definition, what he was going to survey is that McGruder can't say he's about strong."},{"start":263.01,"end":268.7,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Deputy Press Secretary Gerald L. Warren discuss media strategy and public relations management regarding ongoing scandals. The conversation focuses on controlling the narrative surrounding key figures like Jeb Magruder and maintaining distance from student groups. They ultimately decide to limit public engagement and manage the flow of information through vetted, reliable channels.","topics":["Media relations","Public relations","Jeb Magruder","White House strategy","Information management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:32:59.248Z"},"topicSlugs":["media-relations","public-relations","jeb-magruder","white-house-strategy","information-management"],"audioDurationSec":277,"audioFiles":[{"file":"443-018.mp3","bytes":8859648,"durationSec":276.79,"bitrate":256071,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.080Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:41.606Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/443-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/443-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/443/conversation-443-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}