Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 443 › Conversation 443-027

Nixon, Ford & Scott on Legislative scheduling and Vietnam policy

Wednesday, June 6, 1973 · 4:56 PM–5:02 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 6 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ford, Gerald R.; Scott, HughConversation443-027 on Tape 443StartWednesday, June 6, 1973 at 4:56 PMEndWednesday, June 6, 1973 at 5:02 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 443-027 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon held discussions with Gerald Ford and Hugh Scott to reschedule a meeting from Thursday to Tuesday. The President aimed to consolidate the schedule to address Vietnam policy and a freshman summit in a single session. Additionally, the participants touched upon bipartisan legislative strategy, labor-management relations, and concerns regarding the economic impact of labor policy.

  • Legislative scheduling
  • Vietnam policy
  • Freshman summit
  • Labor-management relations
  • Bipartisan strategy

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Well, I understand you're tied up down there.
I was, uh, had the parenting policy.
Then you go to Congress.
Let's be friends with the, uh, proceeds from Pearl Liquor and, uh, the quiet, just, uh, just the bad, you know,
Yeah, so you can pass that.
We were going to have it tomorrow, but I decided that I wanted to wrap it up so that I could take Vietnam.
and the freshman summit all at one meeting, so Tuesday is a better day for it.
Yeah, you probably should have a call by now, but we're changing it from tomorrow, Thursday, to Tuesday at the same time.
Great.
Would you like to do that?
Great.
You're invited.
10 o'clock.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
It'll be Mel's first one.
Yeah.
You're invited.
You're invited.
Great.
We'll tell you, you know.
Sure.
But wait a second.
Wait a second.
How'd you do with our friend, uh, McCluskey?
We're going to, I'm just so sure if you'd like to use him to attempt to catch me and things like that.
We're putting the bipartisan two-street so that I can wrap the Soviet summit, the Vietnam in the one view.
No, no.
That is off.
We put that off the two-street.
But if I use your vote to attempt to catch me, you must do it, Gary.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little.
But as of this moment, it doesn't have any disrupting effect.
I don't want to go to that joint session.
It was nice.
But I'll talk to John about it.
I'm following.
We know that.
Sure, sure, sure.
We know.
On labor, too.
Well, I'll tell you, that would bring it off as a good thing to do.
It would ruin the economy, of course, wouldn't it?
And we've definitely spent the days with the labor and management group, and both labor.
Labor is a strength as you replace real estate.
And management, a little less strength as you, but also.
So that's interesting, too.
That's what we've been thinking about.
Well, you had a fine job yesterday.
That's a good shot across the box.
Ready, set, go.

NARA Description

On June 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, and Hugh Scott met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:56 pm to 5:02 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 443-027 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 443-27

Date: June 6, 1973
Time: 4:56 pm - 5:02 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Gerald R. Ford.

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 39-114]

[End telephone conversation]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 443-27 (cont’d)

The President talked with Hugh Scott at an unknown time before 5:02 pm.

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 39-120]

[End telephone conversation]

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 443-027, June 6, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/443-027 (accessed September 28, 2026).