{"conversationCode":"444-007","tapeNumber":444,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-444-007","startDateTime":"1973-06-11T18:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-11T18:56:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:55 PM","endDate":"11-Jun-1973","endTime":"2:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On June 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:55 pm to 2:56 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 444-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 444-7\n\nDate: June 11, 1973\nTime: 2:55 pm - 2:56 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See Conversation No. 40-9]","filename":["444-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"444-006","nextCode":"444-008","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":23.8,"text":"Oh, go with your guessing."},{"start":23.82,"end":24.09,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":24.11,"end":24.99,"text":"Anything with regard to sent from any other?"},{"start":25.01,"end":27.59,"text":"One thing that you're talking about is that what I have in mind is that this is like a version of a totally controlled situation."},{"start":27.61,"end":28.25,"text":"We fly into a base and go there."},{"start":29.41,"end":49.07,"text":"On a base, that's the one."},{"start":49.09,"end":49.95,"text":"They look it over too late to be concerned."},{"start":49.97,"end":50.67,"text":"What if this is a security problem?"},{"start":50.69,"end":51.67,"text":"If we have to deal with this, we'll let that out."},{"start":51.69,"end":52.11,"text":"Well, maybe we won't."},{"start":52.13,"end":52.23,"text":"Good."},{"start":52.25,"end":52.61,"text":"You leave at 1030."},{"start":52.63,"end":52.95,"text":"Give me my best."},{"start":62.33,"end":62.42,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss logistics and security arrangements for an upcoming trip, focusing on the necessity of maintaining a strictly controlled itinerary. The two weigh the potential security risks of landing at specific bases and whether such details should be disclosed publicly. They conclude the brief exchange by confirming departure times and reaffirming the need for operational discretion.","topics":["National Security","Foreign Policy","Presidential Travel","Logistics","Operational Security"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:35:26.973Z"},"topicSlugs":["national-security","foreign-policy","presidential-travel","logistics","operational-security"],"audioDurationSec":62,"audioFiles":[{"file":"444-007.mp3","bytes":2000896,"durationSec":62.4,"bitrate":256525,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.080Z","transcriptGapSeconds":43,"transcriptGapShare":0.7,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/444-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/444-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/444/conversation-444-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}