{"conversationCode":"444-016","tapeNumber":444,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-444-016","startDateTime":"1973-06-12T17:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-12T17:16:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Jun-1973","startTime":"1:15 PM","endDate":"12-Jun-1973","endTime":"1:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.);","description":"On June 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:15 pm to 1:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 444-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 444-16\n\nDate: June 12, 1973\nTime: 1:15 pm - 1:16 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Brent Scowcroft.\n\n[See Conversation No. 40-31]","filename":["444-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.)"],"prevCode":"444-015","nextCode":"444-017","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":3,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":11.55,"end":24.3,"text":"Put in that message, that to you, a personal message, that the President, to you, as a Christian, will make a personal, unilateral statement with regard to what he's concerned about, reaffirming what he's concerned about."},{"start":24.32,"end":24.64,"text":"See what I mean?"},{"start":24.66,"end":28.15,"text":"And that I will do that, and that I will clear the statement from him and manage to be sure that he's satisfied with it."},{"start":28.62,"end":46.94,"text":"find that I, on behalf of the NO, that I am personally with the NO, I'm part of the community, I'm part of the reading."},{"start":46.96,"end":49.82,"text":"The President wants him to know that because he was personally with the NO, that he will also have to send it back to the Congressional Review."},{"start":49.84,"end":50.06,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":50.08,"end":53.43,"text":"The President wants him to know that because he was personally with the NO, that he will also have to send it back to the Congressional Review."},{"start":60.87,"end":60.92,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed General Brent Scowcroft to deliver a personal message to an unnamed contact, affirming the President's commitment to specific concerns from a Christian perspective. Nixon emphasized his desire to issue a unilateral statement that he would personally clear to ensure the recipient's satisfaction. The President also directed that this matter be routed through the Congressional Review process.","topics":["Foreign Policy","Congressional Review","Diplomatic Communication","Executive Procedure","Christianity"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:36:16.693Z"},"topicSlugs":["foreign-policy","congressional-review","diplomatic-communication","executive-procedure","christianity"],"audioDurationSec":61,"audioFiles":[{"file":"444-016.mp3","bytes":1953610,"durationSec":60.97,"bitrate":256356,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.740Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/444-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/444-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/444/conversation-444-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}