{"conversationCode":"445-004","tapeNumber":445,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-445-004","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T15:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T15:37:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"11:36 AM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"11:37 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:37 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 445-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 445-4\n\nDate: June 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 11:36 am and 11:37 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 40-67]","filename":["445-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"445-003","nextCode":"445-005","transcript":[{"start":3.25,"end":4.24,"text":"That is our thing."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to facilitate an outgoing communication. This brief interaction served as a logistical step to connect the President with another party. No substantive policy discussions or major developments were recorded during this brief administrative exchange.","topics":["White House operations","telecommunications","administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:37:36.298Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operations","telecommunications","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":7,"audioFiles":[{"file":"445-004.mp3","bytes":289228,"durationSec":7.08,"bitrate":326605,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.740Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/445-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/445-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/445/conversation-445-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}