{"conversationCode":"445-005","tapeNumber":445,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-445-005","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T15:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T15:38:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"11:37 AM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"11:38 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.;","description":"On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:37 am to 11:38 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 445-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 445-5\n\nDate: June 13, 1973\nTime: 11:37 am - 11:38 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 40-68]","filename":["445-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr."],"prevCode":"445-004","nextCode":"445-006","transcript":[{"start":0.32,"end":0.78,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.98,"end":6.59,"text":"I'm between grass and I thought maybe we could do about an hour of that stuff."},{"start":6.61,"end":10.08,"text":"You know, if we're running over there, maybe it'd get an end of the day because I know there's more I'm driven for."},{"start":10.1,"end":11.14,"text":"Want to come over now?"},{"start":11.16,"end":12,"text":"Or are you busy with something else?"},{"start":14.53,"end":15.01,"text":"Fine, take your time."},{"start":15.03,"end":15.61,"text":"Don't hurry."},{"start":15.63,"end":16.91,"text":"Don't hurry."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and White House counsel J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. coordinate a meeting to review ongoing legal materials. The participants discuss scheduling an hour-long session to process documentation, with the President prioritizing a thorough review over immediate speed. No specific policy decisions were finalized, but the exchange highlights the logistical planning required to manage sensitive White House records.","topics":["Legal counsel","Document review","Scheduling","White House records","Administration logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:37:41.890Z"},"topicSlugs":["legal-counsel","document-review","scheduling","white-house-records","administration-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":22,"audioFiles":[{"file":"445-005.mp3","bytes":712704,"durationSec":22.15,"bitrate":257448,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.080Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/445-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/445-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/445/conversation-445-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}