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Nixon & Haig on Public Relations and Administration Strategy

Wednesday, June 13, 1973 · 1:41 PM–1:46 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Conversation445-011 on Tape 445StartWednesday, June 13, 1973 at 1:41 PMEndWednesday, June 13, 1973 at 1:46 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 445-011 ↗

President Nixon and Alexander Haig discuss strategic messaging and public relations efforts intended to shift the administration’s focus away from ongoing investigations and toward a more proactive, self-directed agenda. They coordinate plans for an upcoming announcement or speech to build positive momentum, while touching upon the need to manage potential legal challenges or judicial obstacles. The conversation reflects an effort to maintain political control and confidence despite external pressures.

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Well.
Oh yeah, I've heard from Stratton the other night.
He built a country city.
Oh, you can talk to me for an hour and I'd love to talk to a couple other people.
I like you.
Well, then what we want to do is to say on Saturday that
What do you think?
This is a good story.
He's right, and don't worry about the people that say that the train was a traitor and all that.
Look, I understand people are rejoicing when you wrap up in the war and killing the rest, but he can do this for you.
See?
Alright.
Good.
Good.
Dad?
You tell him what we're gonna do.
What he said.
Will he make any speeches for the start?
Yeah.
But he will come to other cabinet meetings, right?
Right.
Good.
Good.
Right.
Good.
Good.
That's good.
Good.
All right.
Any other difficulties?
Well, you know, it's an interesting thing, at least this week.
We're talking about what we're doing rather than worrying about what they're doing.
We're worrying about what they're doing.
The moment an agent comes up, strike him down.
And the judge will be dragged down.
The judge will say, there may be more or there might be less.
This guy's in a hell of a quandary.
The judge has turned down his transaction.
So he gets up there and he comes out with a purchase.
Every step of the way, I go, I just had an hour and a half of him.
Okay, I like it.

On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:41 pm to 1:46 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 445-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 445-11

Date: June 13, 1973
Time: 1:41 pm - 1:46 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
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Conversation 445-011, June 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/445-011 (accessed October 9, 2026).