{"conversationCode":"445-038","tapeNumber":445,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-445-038","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T23:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-14T00:27:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"7:17 PM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"8:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]; Voege, Roy; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), Roy Voege, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:17 pm and 8:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 445-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 445-38\n\nDate: June 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 7:17 pm and 8:27 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n       Application of make-up\n\n       Suit\n              -Delivery\n\nRay Voege [?] entered at an unknown time after 7:17 pm.\n\f                                              -43-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n          Application of make-up [?]\n\nManolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 7:17 pm.\n\n          Item\n                 -Age\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 8:27 pm.\n\n[Pause]\n\n          A towel\n\nVoege [?] and the unknown man left at unknown time before 8:27 pm.","filename":["445-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]","Voege, Roy","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"445-037","nextCode":"445-039","transcript":[{"start":0.6,"end":3.43,"text":"I'm not going to be anywhere."},{"start":51.03,"end":54.44,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":136.7,"end":138.69,"text":"Well, next time."},{"start":139.3,"end":141.75,"text":"Do you want a towel?"},{"start":144.32,"end":144.38,"text":"No."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Roy Voege, Manolo Sanchez, and an unidentified individual in his office to facilitate personal grooming and clothing arrangements. The discussion focused on the practical logistics of applying makeup and the delivery of a suit. These interactions served as brief, routine maintenance tasks regarding the President’s public appearance.","topics":["Richard Nixon","Roy Voege","Manolo Sanchez","Personal Grooming","Wardrobe"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T20:40:46.931Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","roy-voege","manolo-sanchez","personal-grooming","wardrobe"],"audioDurationSec":149,"audioFiles":[{"file":"445-038.mp3","bytes":4777984,"durationSec":149.17,"bitrate":256237,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.740Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:41.970Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/445-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/445-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/445/conversation-445-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}